Iowa: Kerry, Edwards stomp Dean, Gephardt

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Iowa: Kerry, Edwards stomp Dean, Gephardt

Postby Rspaight » Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:02 pm

As I write this:

Kerry, 38%
Edwards, 32%
Dean, 18%
Gephardt, 11%
Kucinich, 1%

Man, I'm surprised Gephardt did so poorly. (So's he -- CNN sez he's dropping out of the race.)

Kerry and Edwards were definitely surging the last few weeks. Bill Schneider on CNN said that Saddam's capture torpedoed Dean's numbers. Not sure I buy that -- in an exit poll, 75% of caucusgoers said they were against the Iraq war. I tend to agree more with the view that most voters in Iowa thought priority #1 was beating Bush, and that John Kerry was the best candidate for that task.

Now, that's bad news for Clark, who has been running primarily as "the guy who can win in November, unlike Dean." I think Kerry gives him a run for his money in that area. Bob Dole told Clark as much on Larry King, and Clark made himself look like an ass by launching into a long-winded, self-aggrandizing mini-stump speech. ("I've conducted foreign policy! I won a war! I'm the alpha male!") He also had this horrible, insincere, shit-eating grin plastered on his face the whole time he was on. Ghastly.

(Joe "Vote for me if you like Bush" Lieberman was on, too, crowing about a newspaper endorsement he got in NH. Man, if he gets the nomination, I'm gonna feel real dirty voting for him.)

It's gonna be *real* interesting next week in NH. I wish I lived in a state where I could actually have a say in this process.

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Postby Rspaight » Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:00 am

Here's a fun little site I stumbled across:

http://www.campaignline.com/index.cfm

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Postby Grant » Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:30 pm

The average age of the state of Iowa is 60. What does that tell you?

I'm really not surprised my man Dean did poorly there.

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Postby Grant » Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:32 pm

C'mon, this ain't SH.tv! Let's see some opinions, not links!

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Postby lukpac » Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:21 pm

I honestly don't know enough about Kerry or Edwards to make an informed decision, other than to say that Edwards seemed fairly impressive in one of the debates. Of course, Mr. Hunte thinks they are both turncoats, so...
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Postby chrischross » Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:30 pm

Grant wrote:C'mon, this ain't SH.tv! Let's see some opinions, not links!


The Iraq War is no longer first and foremost in voters minds as even those against the war turned out for Kerry.

There are some very real fractures in the Democratic Party, that's for sure. As a Dean supporter, I cannot stomach supporting Kerry, other than voting for him in the general, and it has nothing to do with his war vote.

Dean just needs to control the message, control the media, and provide his positive outlook for the country. He's got the supporters willing to go to the wall for him, he just needs to moderate the tone to the rest of the electorate.

If the result had been more disastrous, I'd probably be supporting Edwards at this point.