The Dylan SACD Remasters

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Postby lukpac » Sat Jun 28, 2003 11:40 pm

Ron wrote:No kidding? Simon really said that? I've felt the same way but would never say so out loud [or on sh.tv] for fear of being pelted with stones.


Don't worry. I'll happily pelt you instead.

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Postby Ron » Sat Jun 28, 2003 11:45 pm

Damn! That's what I like about this place--almost any discussion seems to revert to one manner of abuse or another. PELT ME AGAIN . . . LIKE THERE'S NO TOMORROW!
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Postby Ron » Sun Jun 29, 2003 5:00 am

OK, back to the original topic. A simple yes or no will do: Will the new BoB SACD sport a new remix for the red book layer?
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Postby lukpac » Sun Jun 29, 2003 7:43 am

I believe it has been written it will use the same mix as the current SACD. I'm not 100% sure that is accurate, though.

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Postby Patrick M » Sun Jun 29, 2003 3:08 pm

lukpac wrote:I believe it has been written it will use the same mix as the current SACD. I'm not 100% sure that is accurate, though.


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Postby mikenycLI » Thu Jul 03, 2003 1:50 am

It's unconfirmable at the moment, but ICE reports that the first batch of remasters have been...rescheduled....to Sept. 2.

I can't find a link, but allegedly this is the report...

"We reported in ICE #196 that the 15 choice titles
would be coming on August 19; Columbia/Legacy
now has them pegged for release on September
2."

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Postby mikenycLI » Thu Jul 03, 2003 8:30 am

Thanks Luke !

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Postby lukpac » Tue Aug 05, 2003 3:45 pm

More news. A lot of hype, as usual (think ABKCO Stones discs). We'll see if they actually live up to it or not.

Sterling Sound Talks About Upcoming Dylan SACDs

As the September release of the Bob Dylan Remastered Series approaches, the mastering engineers at Sterling Sound have provided additional information about their approach to this project. In talks with Sterling Sound last week, they also confirmed reports that the release date for the first 15 albums in the Dylan Remastered SACD series has been moved back two weeks.

Sterling Sound Handles Dylan SACD Mastering Work
Sterling Sound has provided additional details on the mastering work behind the first 15 albums in the Bob Dylan Remastered SACD series. According to a statement from Sterling Sound "These fifteen titles mark the start of a long-term program to enhance and upgrade the sonic quality and packaging elements of one of the most important album catalogs in popular music." As we noted in earlier articles on this project, Sterling Sound is handling most of the mastering work for the Surround Sound SACD, Stereo SACD and Stereo CD audio tracks on these discs.

Mastering Engineer Greg Calbi is handling all of the Stereo SACD and Stereo CD tracks on the series. Sterling's George Marino is mastering the 5.1 Surround Sound SACD tracks on five of the six Dylan albums to be released in Multichannel SACD. All 15 of the Dylan Remastered SACDs will be Hybrid discs and will appear in digipak album packaging.

Greg Calbi's Approach to SACD Stereo Tracks
Sterling Sound's Greg Calbi was provided with master tapes from the Bob Dylan catalog in several different formats that were dated from 1962 to the present. Calbi said that he kept the songs in the "analog domain" until the final step when they were transferred to Direct Stream Digital (DSD) for creation of the SACDs. This was done by working on an analog console and then
connecting the console directly to Prism DSD converters and then to the DSD editing workstation.

Calbi says that ""The analog signal processing in my room is ideally suited for SACD. It does a great job of taking the analog signal and transferring it into the best digital data that's available. The low-end and all of the rhythmic elements are working in such a way that the combination provides a much more musical experience."

Sterling Sound says that Calbi's mastering suite was upgraded for the project with "new console wiring (featuring Wireworld cables), all tube signal processing, and a new patch bay to minimize signal path". Calbi says that "Those three elements created an immediacy of the sound on the Dylan project that just blew away anything that existed on the market before."

As for the sound of the Dylan SACDs, Calbi says that "On all of the releases, the vocal quality, clarity and expressiveness is much more intimate than it ever has been. People are really going to hear things in his [Dylan's] vocal that they have never heard before. SACD is much a marked improvement over the PCM Digital in terms of smoothness, clarity and fullness. It is a much more pleasurable and satisfying experience that has made me a complete believer in SACD."

Sterling Sound Works on Dylan 5.1 SACD Surround Sound Tracks
On five of the six Dylan SACDs to be released in Surround Sound, Sterling's George Marino handled the mastering work. According to Sterling Sound, Marino's mastering suite was upgraded earlier this year with a "custom analog surround mastering suite" to enable him to handle Multichannel SACD, DVD Video and DVD Audio projects.

Marino describes his approach to surround sound mastering by saying that "You have to create proper balance and imaging so that the audience will appreciate the desired effect. This way they can experience something refreshing and different from what they're used to in the stereo environment."

When creating the 5.1 Surround Sound SACD tracks, Marino worked from new surround mixes created by Michael Brauer and Chris Shaw under the supervision of Sony Legacy's Senior Vice President of A&R Steve Berkowitz. Marino says that "It was a pleasure to work from the Dylan mixes brought in by Michael, Chris and Steve. They are faithful to the original two-track stereo mixes while adding a whole new element that Dylan fans will find very interesting."

Dylan Remastered SACD Series Release Date Moved to September 16th
While it was interesting to hear more about how the first 15 albums in the Dylan Remastered SACD series were created, it was disappointing to hear that their release date has been delayed. The latest word we have is that the in store date for the Dylan SACDs has been delayed until September 16th. When I spoke with Sterling Sound, they confirmed that this is indeed the case.

In the meantime, Dylan and SACD fans may want to look for the special limited digipak edition of the Masked and Anonymous Soundtrack due out on Tuesday which will include a second 7 track SACD Sampler disc with selections from the Dylan Remastered SACD series (see the earlier article on this linked below).

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Postby mikenycLI » Tue Aug 05, 2003 3:54 pm

What do you think about it all, Luke ?

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Postby lukpac » Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:36 pm

The fact that Calbi is staying in analog is promising, but I've heard enough bad sounding CDs to know that hype isn't everything. There's more to mastering than great equipment and staying in analog.

They might sound great. I don't know. But I wouldn't bet on anything.

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Postby mikenycLI » Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:46 pm

Thanks, Luke ! Let us know when you get a good listen, to what's been released so far.

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Postby Rspaight » Fri Aug 08, 2003 5:09 pm

There's a big write-up in the new ICE about these. Among other things, they report that the reason Another Side is being released in 5.1 is that the mixed masters were missing down to a third-generation LP-EQ'ed copy with Dolby. So they had to remix from the multis. Since they were doing that anyway, it was "cost effective" to do 5.1 as well. Apparently future decisions on whether or not to do 5.1 will be decided in part on tape availability. Sony claims to have the multis for everything, but the mixed masters are iffy.

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Postby Xenu » Fri Aug 08, 2003 10:16 pm

Yeah, but what's being *done* with that? How many tracks is Another Side?

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Postby Rspaight » Fri Aug 08, 2003 10:43 pm

Article doesn't say. You get the usual "Wow, when I listened to it the first time I stood there furiously jerking off because I'd never heard Bob sound that good" stuff, but precious few details. Digital ambience like on Elv1s? Voice in the fronts, guitar in the rears, and harp in the subwoofer? Your guess is as good as mine.

Oh, and Bringing It All Back Home was the same deal -- 3rd gen LP production tape with Dolby. So new mixes all around for that one, too. So Another Side, Bringing, and Blonde are all new-ish mixes for both stereo and surround tracks. (Blonde carrying the stereo mix from the previous SACD.) Plus, I assume Street Legal will have the new mix released on CD a few years ago.

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