The Sam Cooke Releases including a DVD film- Details

Just what the name says.
User avatar
Ed Bishop
Posts: 159
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2003 9:14 am
Location: The New Lair

Postby Ed Bishop » Mon Jun 23, 2003 4:20 pm

Still haven't gotten my discs yet--my brother went on vacation and forgot to pre-order them :roll: --so I'm still waiting. Even so, the talk about the 5.1 COPA is heartening, sounds like a lot of care went into recreating the club's ambiance, which is no small thing. As for the comps, I hope the using the mono 45' as references didn't necessarily mean narrowing the stereo to accomplish that aim, and that they went for the basic mixing style of those 45's while making sure we got reasonably wide mixes.

Finally, having a stereo mix of "Wonderful World" is great news, even though, like Luke, I would have preferred, they not bothered with any echo not heard on the original tape or Keen 45.

Now, if we could get Abkco interested in doing some Marianne Faithfull and Herman's Hermits....

ED 8)
When remixing vintage tapes, imagine you are back in the time those recordings were made, and mix accordingly. forget Today's Sound Sensibilities....

User avatar
lukpac
Top Dog and Sellout
Posts: 4592
Joined: Wed Apr 02, 2003 11:51 pm
Location: Madison, WI
Contact:

Postby lukpac » Mon Jun 23, 2003 7:06 pm

The stereo mixes are in the same vein as Keep Movin' On. In fact, the mixes from the 2001 CD are probably the same. Ie, narrowed a bit in most cases, although still a fair amount of separation. A few songs are pretty narrow, and a few aren't narrowed at all.

Of course, the narrowed tracks are easily widened for anyone who wants to do so. No noise reduction, thankfully.

User avatar
Ed Bishop
Posts: 159
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2003 9:14 am
Location: The New Lair

Postby Ed Bishop » Tue Jun 24, 2003 5:23 am

No NR? Good God, what will they think of next? :roll: :lol:

We've gone over the pros and cons of NR before, but I found one CD that's a good argument against: THE TURTLES GOLDEN HITS on Delta. Paid $5 for it used over the weekend, and I remember Ken McAlinden mentioning it positively, and I could hear why right away: no NR, the hiss levels evident but natural, but most of all, a good, crisp sound that lets you hear the music without thinking anything is amiss. It's ironic that when music like this winds up with a major label--which Rhino has been for years--some kind of Eq work or NR winds up being done, however miminally. Yet on small labels or the Special Products divisions of majors, the opposite seems to be true: not going to the expense of any special treatment, the music winds up better for not being heavily manipulated.
Amazing that special John Denver collections wind up NR'd, yet a special products issue like WINDSONG comes off sounding better for someone NOT taking the time to futz with it. A few sonic warts here and there are no big deal, and tape hiss should never be used as an excuse to fiddle around. I'd rather have the option of adjusting it myself, than have it done in advance, with no real recourse.

The recent Glen Campbell comp remastered by Bob Norburg is a travesty; NR'd to death, there's no life to the music at all. It's that sort of crap that can shake your faith in the majors and their approach to remastering.

ED 8)
When remixing vintage tapes, imagine you are back in the time those recordings were made, and mix accordingly. forget Today's Sound Sensibilities....

mikenycLI
Posts: 526
Joined: Mon May 26, 2003 2:02 pm
Location: New York City Metropolitan Area, United States

Postby mikenycLI » Tue Jun 24, 2003 5:26 am

Ed,

I HATE when they call all this "updating for today's audiences".