Conservatives Pick "Most Harmful" Books

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Conservatives Pick "Most Harmful" Books

Postby Rspaight » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:37 am

Just in time for summer reading!

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=7591

The Top Ten

1. The Communist Manifesto - Karl Marx and Freidrich Engels
2. Mein Kampf - Adolf Hitler
3. Quotations from Chairman Mao - Mao Zedong
4. The Kinsey Report - Alfred Kinsey
5. Democracy and Education - John Dewey
6. Das Kapital - Karl Marx
7. The Feminine Mystique - Betty Friedan
8. The Course of Positive Philosophy - Auguste Comte
9. Beyond Good and Evil - Freidrich Nietzsche
10. General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money - John Maynard Keynes

Honorable Mention

The Population Bomb - Paul Ehrlich
What Is To Be Done - V.I. Lenin
Authoritarian Personality - Theodor Adorno
On Liberty - John Stuart Mill
Beyond Freedom and Dignity - B.F. Skinner
Reflections on Violence - Georges Sorel
The Promise of American Life - Herbert Croly
Origin of the Species - Charles Darwin
Madness and Civilization - Michel Foucault
Soviet Communism: A New Civilization - Sidney and Beatrice Webb
Coming of Age in Samoa - Margaret Mead
Unsafe at Any Speed - Ralph Nader
Second Sex - Simone de Beauvoir
Prison Notebooks - Antonio Gramsci
Silent Spring - Rachel Carson
Wretched of the Earth - Frantz Fanon
Introduction to Psychoanalysis - Sigmund Freud
The Greening of America - Charles Reich
The Limits to Growth - Club of Rome
Descent of Man - Charles Darwin
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Postby Xenu » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:52 am

Is that real?
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Postby Rspaight » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:58 am

Looks real to me.

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Postby lukpac » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:09 am

5. Democracy and Education

Author: John Dewey
Publication date: 1916
Score: 36
Summary: John Dewey, who lived from 1859 until 1952, was a “progressive” philosopher and leading advocate for secular humanism in American life, who taught at the University of Chicago and at Columbia. He signed the Humanist Manifesto and rejected traditional religion and moral absolutes. In Democracy and Education, in pompous and opaque prose, he disparaged schooling that focused on traditional character development and endowing children with hard knowledge, and encouraged the teaching of thinking “skills” instead. His views had great influence on the direction of American education--particularly in public schools--and helped nurture the Clinton generation.


Sounds terrible.
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Postby Rspaight » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:14 am

I like how the only writers to appear more than once are Marx and Darwin. This really points out the huge schism in the conservative movement these days: they can't decide whether they believe in survival of the fittest or not. (And, I suppose, they can't decide if they believe in Jesus or not, though one can hate Darwin without embracing Christianity...)

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Postby Bennett Cerf » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:38 am

I'm surprised they didn't find room for Michael Moore and Al Franken.

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Postby Bennett Cerf » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:53 am

His views had great influence on the direction of American education--particularly in public schools--and helped nurture the Clinton generation.


Does "the Clinton generation" mean those educated during Clinton's presidency, or does it mean baby boomers like Clinton himself?

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Postby MK » Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:08 pm

B.F. Skinner, Charles Darwin, Margaret Mead, Rachel Carson, Sigmund Freud..."harmful"? More harmful than, say, any book defending Iran-Contra? Or Watergate? Or how damaging civil rights laws were in the 60's? Yeah, that bitch Carson, most Americans yearn for the day they could spray their houses with DDT, swim in the flaming waters of Cuyahoga, and shoot down the last bald eagle without worrying about the 'environment.'
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Re: Conservatives Pick "Most Harmful" Books

Postby krabapple » Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:49 pm

Rspaight wrote:Just in time for summer reading!

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=7591


Origin of the Species - Charles Darwin



They didn't even get the title right. Dickheads.
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Postby Dob » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:34 pm

Some random thoughts:
3. Quotations from Chairman Mao - Mao Zedong
“It is the task of the people of the whole world to put an end to the aggression and oppression perpetrated by imperialism, and chiefly by U.S. imperialism,” wrote Mao.

Apparently, "conservative scholars" and "public policy leaders" think that U.S. imperialism not only doesn't exist, but to suggest that it does exist is "harmful."
4. The Kinsey Report - Alfred Kinsey
Kinsey’s initial report, released in 1948 . . . stunned the nation by saying that American men were so sexually wild that 95% of them could be accused of some kind of sexual offense under 1940s laws...

You mean those 1940s laws that made it a crime for a married couple to practice oral or anal sex?
5. Democracy and Education - John Dewey
John Dewey was a leading advocate for secular humanism...His views had great influence on the direction of American education--particularly in public schools...

What a radical, harmful idea -- that public schools should be secular. What would be so wrong with teaching religion in public schools? We all have the exact same religious beliefs, right?
6. Das Kapital - Karl Marx
"...portraying capitalism as...inevitably and amorally exploit(ing) labor by paying the cheapest possible wages to earn the greatest possible profits."

Why, that's so totally untrue. Take Wal-Mart, for example.
7. The Feminine Mystique - Betty Friedan
...for a time even the lover of a young Communist physicist working on atomic bomb projects...

Oh, that shameful slut. That must be why she was capable of telling such harmful lies.
9. Beyond Good and Evil - Freidrich Nietzsche
“Life itself is essentially appropriation, injury, overpowering of the strange and weaker, suppression, severity, imposition of one’s own forms, incorporation and, at the least and mildest, exploitation,” he wrote. The Nazis loved Nietzsche.

Apparently the Bushies love Nietzsche as well...that sounds like a perfect description of U.S. foreign policy.
10. General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money - John Maynard Keynes
When the business cycle threatens a contraction of industry, and thus of jobs, he argued, the government should run up deficits, borrowing and spending money to spur economic activity. FDR adopted the idea as U.S. policy, and the U.S. government now has a $2.6-trillion annual budget and an $8-trillion dollar debt.

Keynes also argued that deficit spending should be temporary and that the government should pay down the debt once the "contraction of industry" was over. Seems like the politicians sorta skipped over that part.
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10. General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money - John Maynard Keynes
When the business cycle threatens a contraction of industry, and thus of jobs, he argued, the government should run up deficits, borrowing and spending money to spur economic activity. FDR adopted the idea as U.S. policy, and the U.S. government now has a $2.6-trillion annual budget and an $8-trillion dollar debt.


Wow, that's too funny. It's FDR's fault we're currently fucked.
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Postby Rspaight » Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:24 pm

Wow, that's too funny. It's FDR's fault we're currently fucked.


Yeah. I'm impressed by the right's ability to blame everything on Clinton -- but these guys went the extra mile. Good work!

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Postby krabapple » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:32 pm

Rspaight wrote:
Wow, that's too funny. It's FDR's fault we're currently fucked.


Yeah. I'm impressed by the right's ability to blame everything on Clinton -- but these guys went the extra mile. Good work!

Ryan


Nothing new...more like nostalgia. Remember in the old 'All in the Family' episodes where Archie could drive Maude nuts by explaining "Franklin Delano Roosevelt was the worst president in history."?
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Postby Rspaight » Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:40 am

krabapple wrote:Nothing new...more like nostalgia. Remember in the old 'All in the Family' episodes where Archie could drive Maude nuts by explaining "Franklin Delano Roosevelt was the worst president in history."?


Right.

I was just amused by the notion that the debt that was largely accumulated by the Reagan, and various Bush administrations (driven by conservative anti-tax dogma) could be blamed on the Roosevelt administration.

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Postby Dob » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:39 am

More detail on FDR and Keynes.

Keynes' basic idea was simple. In order to keep people fully employed, governments have to run deficits when the economy is slowing. That's because the private sector won't invest enough.

Even then, Keynes had a hard sell. Most politicians didn't understand his idea to begin with. In the 1932 presidential election, Franklin D. Roosevelt had blasted Herbert Hoover for running a deficit, and dutifully promised he would balance the budget if elected. Keynes' visit to the White House two years later to urge F.D.R. to do more deficit spending wasn't exactly a blazing success. "He left a whole rigmarole of figures," a bewildered F.D.R. complained to Labor Secretary Frances Perkins. "He must be a mathematician rather than a political economist."

As the Depression wore on, Roosevelt tried public works, farm subsidies and other devices to restart the economy, but he never completely gave up trying to balance the budget. In 1938 the Depression deepened. Reluctantly, F.D.R. embraced the only new idea he hadn't yet tried, that of the bewildering British "mathematician." As the President explained in a fireside chat, "We suffer primarily from a failure of consumer demand because of a lack of buying power." It was therefore up to the government to "create an economic upturn" by making "additions to the purchasing power of the nation."

Yet not until the U.S. entered World War II did F.D.R. try Keynes' idea on a scale necessary to pull the nation out of the doldrums — and Roosevelt, of course, had little choice. The big surprise was just how productive America could be when given the chance. Between 1939 and 1944 (the peak of wartime production), the nation's output almost doubled, and unemployment plummeted — from more than 17% to just over 1%.

Never before had an economic theory been so dramatically tested. Even granted the special circumstances of war mobilization, it seemed to work exactly as Keynes predicted. The grand experiment even won over many Republicans. America's Employment Act of 1946 — the year Keynes died — codified the new wisdom, making it "the continuing policy and responsibility of the Federal Government ...to promote maximum employment, production, and purchasing power."
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