Any Opinions On "Pre-Commercial" Genesis CDs ?

Larkston Zinazpic · Postby **Larkston Zinazpic** » Wed May 11, 2005 1:07 pm

Nursery Cryme: Atlantic, 80030-2, made in USA by WEA

Inner ring: 3 80030-2 SRC+10 M1S4

EAC extraction logfile from 11. May 2005, 13:35 for CD
Genesis / Nursery Cryme

Used drive : LITE-ON LTR-32123S Adapter: 1 ID: 0
Read mode : Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, disable cache
Read offset correction : +12
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No

Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo

Other options :
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : No
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000

Track 1
Filename C:\Nursery Cryme\01 - The Musical Box.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:02.42

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 1078A139
Copy CRC 1078A139
Copy OK

Track 2
Filename C:\Nursery Cryme\02 - For Absent Friends.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:02.86

Peak level 40.0 %
Track quality 99.9 %
Test CRC A2E6D4B1
Copy CRC A2E6D4B1
Copy OK

Track 3
Filename C:\Nursery Cryme\03 - The Return of the Giant Hogweed.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:03.26

Peak level 83.6 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC AE58A6BA
Copy CRC AE58A6BA
Copy OK

Track 4
Filename C:\Nursery Cryme\04 - Seven Stones.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:03.04

Peak level 90.6 %
Track quality 99.9 %
Test CRC 6CDB2993
Copy CRC 6CDB2993
Copy OK

Track 5
Filename C:\Nursery Cryme\05 - Harold the Barrel.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:02.60

Peak level 89.5 %
Track quality 99.9 %
Test CRC 68B56AAD
Copy CRC 68B56AAD
Copy OK

Track 6
Filename C:\Nursery Cryme\06 - Harlequin.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:01.93

Peak level 42.1 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC F1A58CBC
Copy CRC F1A58CBC
Copy OK

Track 7
Filename C:\Nursery Cryme\07 - The Fountain of Salmacis.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:03.66

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 3B4B9913
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Copy OK

No errors occured

End of status report

The UK disc is louder.

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Larkston Zinazpic · Postby **Larkston Zinazpic** » Wed May 11, 2005 1:58 pm

Foxtrot: Atlantic 81848-2, made in USA by WEA

Inner ring: 3 81848-2 SRC=10 M1S9

EAC extraction logfile from 11. May 2005, 14:20 for CD
Genesis / Foxtrot

Used drive : LITE-ON LTR-32123S Adapter: 1 ID: 0
Read mode : Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, disable cache
Read offset correction : +12
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No

Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo

Other options :
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : No
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000

Track 1
Filename C:\Foxtrot\01 - Watcher Of The Skies.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:02.44

Peak level 87.5 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC CBF331FF
Copy CRC CBF331FF
Copy OK

Track 2
Filename C:\Foxtrot\02 - Time Table.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:02.86

Peak level 85.1 %
Track quality 99.9 %
Test CRC 00A6AD5D
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Copy OK

Track 3
Filename C:\Foxtrot\03 - Get 'Em Out By Friday.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:02.13

Peak level 91.7 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 3785B0F1
Copy CRC 3785B0F1
Copy OK

Track 4
Filename C:\Foxtrot\04 - Can-Utility And The Coastliners.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:02.16

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC C5AF829C
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Copy OK

Track 5
Filename C:\Foxtrot\05 - Horizons.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:01.53

Peak level 85.8 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC DEDED254
Copy CRC DEDED254
Copy OK

Track 6
Filename C:\Foxtrot\06 - Supper's Ready.wav

Pre-gap length 0:00:05.00

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 51506F81
Copy CRC 51506F81
Copy OK

No errors occured

End of status report

The US disc appears to be louder.

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Phil Elliott · Postby **Phil Elliott** » Wed May 11, 2005 2:06 pm

Beatlesfan03 wrote:
Got into a discussion with Phil Elliott on these once at sh.tv. Perhaps he'll chime in here as well. I'd post his finds that I got there, but I seem to be persona non grata now and can't access the site most of the time.

Here you go.

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showt ... hp?t=28184

Postby **lukpac** » Wed May 11, 2005 2:12 pm

Dave wrote:Abacab...Atlantic Gold CD cat # 82521-2. Much better than previous or post masterings IMO.

Didn't the Atlantic remasters use the same mastering as the gold CDs? That's certainly the case for Empty Glass...

krabapple · Postby **krabapple** » Wed May 11, 2005 3:10 pm

Also the case for Yes' Fragile (until the recent re-remaster, that is)

Beatlesfan03 · Postby **Beatlesfan03** » Thu May 12, 2005 5:44 pm

Phil Elliott wrote:
Beatlesfan03 wrote:
Got into a discussion with Phil Elliott on these once at sh.tv. Perhaps he'll chime in here as well. I'd post his finds that I got there, but I seem to be persona non grata now and can't access the site most of the time.

Here you go.

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showt ... hp?t=28184

Thanks Phil.

Beatlesfan03 · Postby **Beatlesfan03** » Thu May 12, 2005 5:45 pm

lukpac wrote:
Dave wrote:Abacab...Atlantic Gold CD cat # 82521-2. Much better than previous or post masterings IMO.

Didn't the Atlantic remasters use the same mastering as the gold CDs? That's certainly the case for Empty Glass...

As much as I hate to say it, I think Dave is right on this one. Ted Jensen did the gold version. The current Genesis discs were done by Nick Davis and Chris Blair.

Also, I think the Atlantic version was a year before the current remasters.