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From Macdon, who blasts out from behind Catraker with this delightful gem:

Macdon wrote:s-nado said

"human life begins at the point when the baby can survive on its own outside the womb."

That belief makes abortion easy.


My biggest complaint about the Left is that they do not hold anyone accountable for their actions. They would totally do away with personal accountability. Self reliance is an unknown term to the democrats.

"Oh you're pregnant? No problem we can scrape that little bugger right out of there. Don't forget to vote for the Democrats."

"Oh you're too lazy to work? No problem, here is some money, some food stamps...we'll make those 'rich' folk take care of you. Remember to vote Democratic now."

Wow. Oh wow. Because, you know, Republicans don't *get* abortions. No Republicans LIKE abortions. Fuck, now that rich scion offspring are so marketable (hey, Hiltons!)...

I don't even know where to begin. I simply do not know where to begin. The left wants to deal away with personal accountability...maybe this is crass, but murderous as they might be, abortions are certainly a way of dealing with a problem one has created, right? I love definitions of "accountability." So a couple who uses all forms of birth control must be "accountable" because they had sex. So a couple who doesn't know about birth control is "accountable" because the religious atmosphere of their town prevents them from knowing about birth control?

Abortion as accountability. Punishment for having sex. "YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE DOING." Well, maybe. "YOU UNDERSTOOD THE CONSEQUENCES. YOUR CHOSEN METHOD OF SOLVING IS INVALID. YOU MUST SUFFER OR MY FURY SHALL NOT BE SALVED." But wait, who suffers? The woman. The guy can just skip.

Abortion as equivalent to welfare. Helping the poor is like killing unwanted babies! That's a slogan I'd love to see. Because remember, the poor are only poor because they're lazy, and the Democrats love laziness. Those people in Washington Park in Chicago? They're lazy. I never see them heading on the L to their unsatisfying jobs. No, they just want to live off the system and love Democrats. I remember reading an excellent article that showed how the "Welfare Queen" bogeyman never existed on the proposed scale.

Abortion as the Greatest Crime Ever Comitted. Why the fuck don't pro-lifers love gays? Gays don't have abortion. Barring STDs, gay sex doesn't have consequences, besides the usual psycho issues and those wonderful intestinal disorder statistics some Christian sites delight in delving into (tangent: did anybody see that wonderful Daily Show with Rob Cordry on the "Gay Philadelphia" marketing campaign? He talks to a guy from some Christian group who's absolutely *fixated* on that sort of thing. Provided he isn't joking. Which I doubt he is). How the fuck does that work into a secular calculus? It doesn't.

Who came up with secular calculus, anyway? Newton? Leibniz? I bet it was Euler, wasn't it?

I think it was Leibniz originally, and then Newton developed it into today's standard calculus. I could be wrong.

I get my rightwing entertainment from Free Republic. What is WCF?

Ah, Central Kentucky. We bring you security crises in the nation's capitol, suspicious Saudi flights after 9/11, and right-wing online raving. I'm so proud.

Ryan

Hey, Ryan, you should sign up and join in the fun at WCF. Xenu is not willing to get in the water,and we need a few more rational thinkers over there...

Do you need a few more stolid rational thinkers? Cause that's what Ryan is.

Just don't call me a flake.

Ryan

This nugget from Florida Cracker:
[quote=Florida Cracker]Very few in the vast country of ours go to the New York Times for a legitimate source of news. Now if you need to wipe your butt in your outhouse, it serves a purpose.[/quote]

Very few in this country use the NYT as a source of news. Interesting.

My quoting didn't work. Dammit.

Florida Cracker also doesn't understand that when the left brings up States' Rights, it's frequently to point out inconsistencies in the right's approach to things. I don't believe homosexual marriage can be a "states' rights" issue very easily, given the full-faith-and-credit biznass involved. At the same time, I'm permitted to find amusement in the morally-conservative abandonment of what should theoretically be a core value to trumpet a peripheral value.

You need quotes.

Florida Cracker also doesn't understand that when the left brings up States' Rights, it's frequently to point out inconsistencies in the right's approach to things.

Yes, precisely. It *shouldn't* be a states' rights issue. The left doesn't want it to be to prevent a patchwork of conflicting laws, and the right doesn't want it to be so they can just ban the whole thing at the Consitutional level.

Thing is, the right has a long history of states' right advocacy. Except, I gather, where there's butt-fucking involved. Then Big Government is back with a vengeance, baby.

Ryan

Rspaight wrote:Thing is, the right has a long history of states' right advocacy. Except, I gather, where there's butt-fucking involved.

Or a disputed election.

More Florida Cracker:

Florida Cracker wrote:1/3 of all black pregnancies end in abortion. ONE-THIRD. This race will be a footnote in history within the next century if they keep aborting and killing each other.

Of course, since I'm an insensitive clod, my first reaction to that was "well, although pessimistic, I still see growth!"

Besides, Florida's in, well, Florida. Shouldn't he be worrying about those hot blooded Latins as well? I don't think they're quite on their way to being a "footnote" in the national demographic...