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Jobs, jobs, jobs and Lou Dobbs

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:53 pm
by Patrick M
In the last few weeks, I've read that the current hiring downturn is the worst since the Depression. I've also read that the 3 millionish jobs lost over the last few years are not coming back.

Last night, I was watching Lou Dobbs and Commere Secretary Don Evans was on. The transcript is available here:

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0309/17/ldt.00.html

Here are the points that stuck out to me:

EVANS: ...And we expect that there's going to be a level playing feel for the American workers.

DOBBS: A level playing field. As Peter Viles just reported, the Chinese, other nations as well, here in the United States recruiting with American corporations, suggesting that they move their enterprises to China, because you can hire 10 times as many, in the case of the Peter Viles report today, 10 software engineers for each one that you can hire in the United States.

EVANS: Yes.

Lou, listen, we're the most competitive nation in the world. And one of the things my travel across America really rang clearly to me was that we can compete against anybody on a level playing field. And that's true today. And so, when I think about the competition around the world and maybe lower wage rates in other countries, I assure you that this work force of ours in America can compete with anybody in the world, white collar or blue collar, as long as it's a level playing feel, we're all playing by the same rules.

Right now, our workers have got a choke collar around them, not only because of some of the unfair trade practices around the world, but also, quite frankly, Lou, a choke collar just because of some -- health care costs are rising dramatically in this country. The lawsuit burden that these companies face here in America is causing an excess burden on our manufacturers. So I'm not concerned about us competing with the rest of the world, as long as we're on a level playing field.

DOBBS: Well, I love what you said earlier this week. We can compete, blue-collar workers, white-collar works. It's the choke collar we have a problem with.

The choke collar, though, goes beyond health care costs and to litigation costs. It goes to the issue of environmental laws that American business employers have to deal with, as well as their workers. It goes to a host of other issues. The playing field is not level. The American worker is getting simply killed in this environment. Is this something that the administration, that you, Mr. Secretary, are going to deal with right away?

EVANS: Well, we are.

The president is going to deal with it. He has been dealing with it for the first 2 1/2 years of this administration, to begin with., We needed to cut the tax burden on the backs of the American people and American businesses all across this nation. And because of his leadership and three successive tax cuts, we're seeing our economy to begin to pick up steam now. GDP, as you know, in the second quarter was 3.1 percent.

We expect -- most economists expect it to be in the 4 to 5 percent range in the third and fourth quarter. But the president recently came out with an economic growth agenda that focused on the topics that you just talked about, rising health care costs. We need medical liability reform that's come out of the House to his desk. We need an energy bill to get to his desk. We need legal reform in this country to remove the lawsuit burden on the backs of the American people and American workers. And we also need to make tax cuts permanent, because families, as well as businesses, like to plan their future. And it's awful tough to plan your future if you don't know what the rules are going to be in the years head.

So the president was very strong about the permanency and certainty of tax cuts. This is what will create the conditions for more jobs in America. And, as I have said many, many times, the top three economic priorities of this administration and the president, the first one is jobs. The second one is jobs. And the third one is jobs. And we're going to continue to fight very hard for creating the conditions for creating more jobs in our economy.

DOBBS: Mr. Secretary, I think that most of us would, certainly at the very least, hypothetically, sign up for everything that you just said, endorse it, agree with you. I'll stipulate it.

At the same time, we can't grow our way out of the situation we have now. We cannot grow our way economically into a level playing field. That's going to require a number of structural adjustments. What do you and what does the president then plan to do about that?

EVANS: Well, in terms of structural adjustments, Lou, what I would say, we need to enter more free trade agreements with people around the world.

Here, Evans espouses the handful of points the administration always harps on:
    tax cuts (and making them permanent)
    tort reform
    relaxing environmental standards

Plus more free trade agreements, which is a point I've heard less about than the other three.

This is all being spun from the perspective of the worker, ironically, not the businesses themselves (i.e., management). Ultimately, the three factors above do not directly impact the worker.

The assumption the administration makes is that if they make it cheaper for American businesses to operate, then those businesses will, in turn, hire more American workers, thus creating more jobs in America.

Does anyone else think this is enormous leap of faith?!?!?!

If the gov't gives businesses all these breaks - with no strings attached - then are we to believe that American CEOs will become smitten with a sense of obligation to give something back and thus create jobs in America?

I don't buy this...at all. American corporations are only concerned about the bottom line. I think if you make them richer - by cutting taxes, limiting their legal responsibilities, and relaxing environmental standards - they're just going to continue to ship jobs out and figure they will fatten the bottom line that much more.

Thoughts?

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 10:48 pm
by lukpac
Er, correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't entering into more free trade agreements actually send more jobs out of the country?

And, as you say, I'm not sure how tax cuts will help keep jobs in the US. Are we to believe that if businesses pay fewer taxes they will use that money to pay for more expensive US labor, even though they can still get it more cheaply abroad? Somehow I don't think so.

I don't understand why more people haven't exposed these tax cuts for the "working class" for the sham that they are.

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:04 pm
by Patrick M
lukpac wrote:Er, correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't entering into more free trade agreements actually send more jobs out of the country?

I defer to Ryan's larger and superior cranium on this one. I don't know how it would help an American worker, unless they are talking about buying raw supplies (or parts) abroad, importing them, and doing some manufacturing or finally assembly here. Just a guess.

Are we to believe that if businesses pay fewer taxes they will use that money to pay for more expensive US labor, even though they can still get it more cheaply abroad?

Apparently we are to believe that, and it's laughable.

Sort of reminds me of the "no strings attached" pile of money the gov't was going to give to businesses after 9/11. Whatever happened to that?

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 8:32 am
by Rspaight
I defer to Ryan's larger and superior cranium on this one. I don't know how it would help an American worker, unless they are talking about buying raw supplies (or parts) abroad, importing them, and doing some manufacturing or finally assembly here. Just a guess.


Oh, kiss my cranium.

Here's the spin:

TRADE AND THE AMERICAN WORKER

"Trade Promotion Authority is an important tool to help strengthen the U.S. economy and create American jobs. It provides U.S. trade negotiators with needed credibility and authority to open markets that benefit America's workers and farmers."
–former U.S. Trade Representatives Strauss, Brock, Yeutter and Hills

• Trade Promotion Authority will lead to expanded opportunities for world trade, and expanded trade opportunities mean expanded employment opportunities. Freer trade allows workers to exploit their comparative advantage and improve their earnings.

• Opening the world's markets to trade has helped to infuse the American workforce with new energy, creativity, competitiveness. Twelve million American jobs – nearly 10 percent of the total – have jobs that are linked to the export of U.S. goods and services.

• Jobs supported by exports are estimated to pay 13-18 percent more than non-export jobs.

• The value of trade (goods, services, and investment earnings) now represents more than one third of our economy, up from 13 percent in 1970.

• The two major trade agreements of the 1990s – the North American Free Trade Agreement and the Uruguay Round – have been a boon for American workers. The accords generate annual gains of $1300-$2000 for the average American family of four, while helping to spark greater productivity, dynamism, and job creation throughout the U.S. economy.

• The global trade negotiations launched in Doha, Qatar on November 14 can generate real benefits for American workers.

• The negotiations present a special opportunity to enhance the productivity and competitiveness of the U.S. economy. This, in turn, will help support the expansion of export-supported jobs, higher-wage employment, and increased living standards.

• The average American family of four could see an annual income gain of nearly $2,500 from a global reduction in tariffs and trade barriers – the objective of the negotiations – according to a University of Michigan study.

• New trade agreements will open new markets for U.S. exports, thus stimulating the U.S. economy and supporting the creation of even more higher-paying American jobs.

• Trade Promotion Authority is needed to help the United States pursue – and complete – new trade agreements. Enactment of TPA will send a powerful signal to our trading partners that the United States is committed to advancing free trade.

• Economic growth promotes greater respect for workers' rights and improved labor conditions. The Trade Promotion Authority bill under consideration in the House (H.R. 3005) includes the promotion of worker rights in other countries– consistent with the ILO core labor standards – as a U.S. trade negotiating objective.

• Studies by both the World Bank and the Brookings Institution document the positive links between trade, economic growth and labor standards. For example, the incidence of child labor declines dramatically as per capita income rises.

• H.R. 3005 says that future TPA agreements should ensure that our trading partners do not systematically fail to enforce their labor laws in a manner that affects their trade with the United States.

• H.R. 3005 also includes provisions designed to promote our trading partners' abilities to enforce, and elevate, their labor standards. These provisions call for the U.S. government to provide various forms of capacity building and technical assistance.

• We acknowledge that some American workers – those in sectors adversely impacted by increased foreign competition – will suffer job dislocations from expanded trade. That is why the Administration supports reauthorized and improved Trade Adjustment Assistance (TAA) legislation, to provide those workers with income support and training.


Ryan

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 9:56 pm
by Patrick M
Let me get this straight:

Free trade agreements are not designed so we can get more cheap crap and export our manufacturing jobs.

Rather, they are so we can increase jobs by exporting more goods and services.

So I suppose there are millions of kids in China with Tommy Hilfiger shirts and made in the USA tags? :|

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 8:11 am
by Rspaight
Yeah, that's pretty much how I read it. Shut up and go to "job dislocation" training.

Ryan