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I Miss You Guys

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 4:28 pm
by Rspaight
This makes 2004 look good.

Re: I Miss You Guys

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 8:42 pm
by lukpac
I was thinking back to 2004 earlier today. Specifically, calling my dad on the way home from work that Wednesday, astounded at what had just happened.

At this point, though, I don't have the energy for most of this shit. I think 6 years of Scott Walker has left me numb. And it used to be that WI could be reliably depended on in presidential election years. Apparently not anymore.

Re: I Miss You Guys

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:30 am
by Rspaight
Getting Bevin down here has been similar, I'm sure. And our state House just went from +6 Dem to +28 Rep. No good news anywhere.

Worried about my mom's marriage getting undone.

Worried about my friends about to lose health care.

Worried about women/POC/LBGT/religious minorities on whom it's now open season.

Worried about poor women when Planned Parenthood loses federal funding.

Worried about the Bush/Obama surveillance state now in the hands of a vindictive sociopath narcissist.

Worried about a cabinet filled with Gingrich, Giuliani, Palin, Sheriff Clarke, Bolton, Carson, and God knows what climate change deniers they'll dig up to run NASA and the EPA.

So numb.

Re: I Miss You Guys

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:54 pm
by lukpac
For the 2 of you that may end up seeing this in 6 months:

I'm sure some of this comes down to changes in my perceptions and attitudes (being 16 years more world weary), but this feels different from Bush II on a fundamental level to me, especially his first term. I think there was a sense that, hey, if we raise enough hell, maybe things can change. Maybe people will see past the "compassionate conservative" facade and take notice of all of the shit going down. Maybe we can make a difference.

Those feelings were tempered somewhat by the 2004 election, but it seems like what we have now is something entirely different. Depending on the group, either it doesn't matter that Trump is a lying, egomaniacal, racist blowhard with the temperament of a spoiled 5 year old, or he's embraced for those very reasons. I don't think it's uncommon for people to play down faults of their preferred candidate while playing up those of the opponent, but the attitude of Republicans this year seems unprecedented.

Yes, I take some enjoyment in watching Seth Meyers or Samantha Bee or Stephen Colbert rip into Trump, but I've pretty much given up on posting anything or attempting to engage anyone on the right. What's the point? It's not like anything is that much of a revelation. If they didn't care on November 8th, why would they care now?

Thoughts?

Re: I Miss You Guys

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:04 am
by Rspaight
It's not just Trump, it seems like the GOP in general doesn't give a fuck and is setting about being as terrible as possible because they know it won't hurt them. It's bizarre. Look at what's going on in North Carolina. They're not even pretending to care about governing, they exist only to beat up on their enemies.

Re: Trump, though, he is truly assembling a kakistocracy. As awful as Bush II was, there was at least the sense that though his cabinet and advisers might have been evil, they were at least competent. And some were actually decent. Trump's nominees are without fail completely unqualified and often actively hostile to the agencies they are being assigned to. Many are fools. Their *stated* goal is the ruination of the government as we know it.

So no, I don't think reason will help at all. These people want to see the country burn, and I don't know that anything will stop them.

Re: I Miss You Guys

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:40 pm
by Rspaight
This seems to be going well.

Re: I Miss You Guys

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:22 pm
by lukpac
Rspaight wrote:This seems to be going well.


Just give him a chance...

Re: I Miss You Guys

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:50 am
by Rspaight
Hey, remember when I'd make fun of W's crappy speeches? Good times, good times.

Your Racist Father-In-Law Who Watches Too Much TV News wrote:Well, the election, it came out really well. Next time we’ll triple the number or quadruple it. We want to get it over 51, right? At least 51.

Well this is Black History Month, so this is our little breakfast, our little get-together. Hi Lynn, how are you? Just a few notes. During this month, we honor the tremendous history of African-Americans throughout our country. Throughout the world, if you really think about it, right? And their story is one of unimaginable sacrifice, hard work, and faith in America. I’ve gotten a real glimpse — during the campaign, I’d go around with Ben to a lot of different places I wasn’t so familiar with. They’re incredible people. And I want to thank Ben Carson, who’s gonna be heading up HUD. That’s a big job. That’s a job that’s not only housing, but it’s mind and spirit. Right, Ben? And you understand, nobody’s gonna be better than Ben.

Last month, we celebrated the life of Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr., whose incredible example is unique in American history. You read all about Dr. Martin Luther King a week ago when somebody said I took the statue out of my office. It turned out that that was fake news. Fake news. The statue is cherished, it’s one of the favorite things in the — and we have some good ones. We have Lincoln, and we have Jefferson, and we have Dr. Martin Luther King. But they said the statue, the bust of Martin Luther King, was taken out of the office. And it was never even touched. So I think it was a disgrace, but that’s the way the press is. Very unfortunate.

I am very proud now that we have a museum on the National Mall where people can learn about Reverend King, so many other things. Frederick Douglass is an example of somebody who’s done an amazing job and is being recognized more and more, I noticed. Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, and millions more black Americans who made America what it is today. Big impact.

I’m proud to honor this heritage and will be honoring it more and more. The folks at the table in almost all cases have been great friends and supporters. Darrell — I met Darrell when he was defending me on television. And the people that were on the other side of the argument didn’t have a chance, right? And Paris has done an amazing job in a very hostile CNN community. He’s all by himself. You’ll have seven people, and Paris. And I’ll take Paris over the seven. But I don’t watch CNN, so I don’t get to see you as much as I used to. I don’t like watching fake news. But Fox has treated me very nice. Wherever Fox is, thank you.

We’re gonna need better schools and we need them soon. We need more jobs, we need better wages, a lot better wages. We’re gonna work very hard on the inner city. Ben is gonna be doing that, big league. That’s one of the big things that you’re gonna be looking at. We need safer communities and we’re going to do that with law enforcement. We’re gonna make it safe. We’re gonna make it much better than it is right now. Right now it’s terrible, and I saw you talking about it the other night, Paris, on something else that was really — you did a fantastic job the other night on a very unrelated show.

I’m ready to do my part, and I will say this: We’re gonna work together. This is a great group, this is a group that’s been so special to me. You really helped me a lot. If you remember I wasn’t going to do well with the African-American community, and after they heard me speaking and talking about the inner city and lots of other things, we ended up getting — and I won’t go into details — but we ended up getting substantially more than other candidates who had run in the past years. And now we’re gonna take that to new levels. I want to thank my television star over here — Omarosa’s actually a very nice person, nobody knows that. I don’t want to destroy her reputation but she’s a very good person, and she’s been helpful right from the beginning of the campaign, and I appreciate it. I really do. Very special.

So I want to thank everybody for being here.

Re: I Miss You Guys

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:31 pm
by lukpac

Re: I Miss You Guys

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:15 pm
by Rspaight
If you remember I wasn’t going to do well with the African-American community, and after they heard me speaking and talking about the inner city and lots of other things, we ended up getting — and I won’t go into details — but we ended up getting substantially more than other candidates who had run in the past years.


So, you did better than the Republicans that were running against a black guy? Impressive.

Re: I Miss You Guys

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:10 am
by lukpac
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Re: I Miss You Guys

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:13 pm
by Matt
So looking back to the worries earlier in this post, how do you all feel the last (almost) three years have actually been?

Re: I Miss You Guys

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:11 pm
by Rspaight
Matt wrote:So looking back to the worries earlier in this post, how do you all feel the last (almost) three years have actually been?


Worried about my mom's marriage getting undone -- same sex marriage has survived so far, but with the new 6-3 court majority that could change. At this point, though, I don't think they'd be able to get away with retroactively negating marriages. It would be messy, though.

Worried about my friends about to lose health care -- this came *real* close to happening, and could still. Hearing that Kavanaugh of all people might be the vote to leave the ACA intact.

Worried about women/POC/LBGT/religious minorities on whom it's now open season -- I think this was fully realized.

Worried about poor women when Planned Parenthood loses federal funding -- as was this.

Worried about the Bush/Obama surveillance state now in the hands of a vindictive sociopath narcissist -- we may never know the extent of this, but I don't think there's any doubt he brought the power of the government to bear on his personal grudges

Worried about a cabinet filled with Gingrich, Giuliani, Palin, Sheriff Clarke, Bolton, Carson, and God knows what climate change deniers they'll dig up to run NASA and the EPA -- called this one, too.