Bush confuses world in Iraq comments

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Bush confuses world in Iraq comments

Postby Rspaight » Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:19 pm

The President said a weird thing recently -- he called the Iraq war a "catastrophic success." The implication seems be that the military did too good a job in taking over Iraq and not killing enough bad guys before declaring "mission accomplished," thus leaving more bad guys available to fight us later.

While this is a novel way to spin the obvious planning failures, it's left the world somewhat confused as to what exactly a "catastrophic success" is, and whether it's a good or bad thing.

Among others, Australia thinks it's a bad thing:


Iraq success 'catastrophic': Bush

Roy Eccleston in New York
August 31, 2004

GEORGE W. Bush has admitted the US failed to plan for a speedy victory in Iraq, describing the sudden collapse of Saddam Hussein's regime as a "catastrophic success".

In a rare concession from the President, who dislikes admitting error, Mr Bush told Time magazine that his planners had not considered the prospect of a quick collapse...

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Among others, CNN thinks it's a good thing:


Stumping in West Virginia, a defense of the Iraq war
Bush calls Iraq 'a catastrophic success'

Sunday, August 29, 2004 Posted: 6:28 PM EDT (2228 GMT)

WHEELING, West Virginia (AP) -- President Bush on Sunday defended the invasion of Iraq, calling it a "catastrophic success" despite continued violence and the lack of weapons that drove the country to war.

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John Edwards is rightfully confused:


GOP convention week kicks off amid protests

By DANA MILBANK
The Washington Post

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Democrats tried Sunday to exploit that acknowledgment. “The president is now describing his Iraq policy as a catastrophic success,” Democratic vice presidential nominee John Edwards said in Washington. “I, like most Americans, have no idea what that means.”

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I guess it beats a "triumphant failure." Maybe. I'm not sure.

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Postby lukpac » Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:13 pm

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?b ... &x=12&y=14

Main Entry: ca·tas·tro·phe
Pronunciation: k&-'tas-tr&-(")fE
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek katastrophE, from katastrephein to overturn, from kata- + strephein to turn
1 : the final event of the dramatic action especially of a tragedy
2 : a momentous tragic event ranging from extreme misfortune to utter overthrow or ruin
3 a : a violent and sudden change in a feature of the earth b : a violent usually destructive natural event (as a supernova)
4 : utter failure : FIASCO
- cat·a·stroph·ic /"ka-t&-'strä-fik/ adjective
- cat·a·stroph·i·cal·ly /-fi-k(&-)lE/ adverb
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Postby Patrick M » Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:44 pm

http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book= ... on&x=0&y=0

Main Entry: ox·y·mo·ron
Pronunciation: "äk-sE-'mor-"än
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural ox·y·mo·ra /-'mor-&/
Etymology: Late Greek oxymOron, from neuter of oxymOros pointedly foolish, from Greek oxys sharp, keen + mOros foolish
: a combination of contradictory or incongruous words (as cruel kindness); broadly : something (as a concept) that is made up of contradictory or incongruous elements
- ox·y·mo·ron·ic /-m&-'rä-nik, -mo-/ adjective
- ox·y·mo·ron·i·cal·ly /-ni-k(&-)lE/ adverb