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Sectory boundary errors, snapping, CEPro and so on

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:18 pm
by Patrick M
I have CEPro 1.3 and I have Snapping set to 'Set to Ruler (Fine)'. But after I edit and save a WAV, I frequently find that SHNTOOL reports a SBE. What am I doing wrong here?

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 12:23 pm
by Xenu
There's a CEP 1.3?

I don't knowwwww. Look, this is how I've been solving it. If I must edit track by track instead of in one huge WAV, I eventually end up viewing everything in SAMPLES. There are 44100 samples per second, and 75 CD frames per second. Ergo, 588 samples per frame. What I do is before I save the final run through, I make sure every file's sample count is divisible by 588. If it isn't, I cut a few off the end and paste into the beginning of the next one, and keep doing this until the end.

Should there be an easier way? Yes. But CEP doesn't seem to align to frames. Ever.

And CEP's giving me weirder grief at present. It refuses--REFUSES--to cancel audio correctly. Say I have a stereo source. I channel mix both tracks to equal the right channel. I then attempt a vocal cut. I STILL get noise at -96dB. This only seems to happen at home, not at school, so I'm wondering if it's a peculiarity in the way I have my CEP set up here.

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 5:03 pm
by lukpac
I never have these problems on the Mac... :roll:

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:32 pm
by Patrick M
Do you check the files before you burn to make sure?

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:37 pm
by lukpac
Make sure of what? All I know is using the software I use (Spark/PT Free/Jam) I've never had a problem with pops between songs on live CDs (and I almost always burn using individual files).

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:54 pm
by Patrick M
Make sure you don't have SBEs. They're not always audible. I check just to make sure I don't waste a CDR.

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:05 pm
by lukpac
What are they, exactly? And how would you know you had them?

I've never noticed any problems with doing compares on discs in EAC, FWIW.

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:38 pm
by Patrick M

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 9:08 pm
by lukpac
I'd have to say Jam takes care of this...

And what do they mean "to track"?

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 9:18 pm
by Patrick M
lukpac wrote:And what do they mean "to track"?

I think he's just referring to chopping up one big WAV into individual tracks.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 4:11 pm
by Xenu
Some burning programs handle SBEs intelligently, moving the points around. Nero does not.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 5:30 pm
by Patrick M
Xenu wrote:Some burning programs handle SBEs intelligently, moving the points around. Nero does not.

I didn't know that. Damn, Nero sucks. I wish I had a better option.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 7:41 pm
by lukpac
Why don't you use EAC to burn?

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:34 pm
by Patrick M
I'd love to. Doesn't work with this burner.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:44 pm
by lukpac
What kind of crappy burner do you have? I've never had as much of a hiccup with any of the drives I've tried it on.