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Splitting WAV tracks apart

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:16 am
by JWB
I use Cool Edit Pro to split my WAV files into tracks and it works 90% of the time, but sometimes there's a little "blip" at the track change. Everybody I ask about this tells me about "snapping", so I adjust it and it doesn't fucking work. Everyone says it works fine for them.

Is this a common problem? Should I download CD Wave and try that?

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:27 am
by Patrick M
I assume these are sector boundary errors?

http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=SeedingGuidelines

IIRC, if you zoom in enough - even with snapping on - you can wind up creating a SBE.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:31 am
by JWB
Thanks for that info. I'm gonna download CD WAVE.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 10:36 am
by lukpac
Patrick M wrote:http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=SeedingGuidelines


"Do not seed EAC rips of already existing lossless sources. Adding DAE generations is frowned upon and has potential for loss of quality."

Umm, sure.

In terms of SBEs, don't most burning programs take care of this? I've never had an issue in Jam...

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:36 am
by Xenu
Most are supposed to; many don't (like, say, every single fucking program I've used throughout the years). Thankfullly, I usually do the one-big-wave-CUE approach when indexes matter, i.e. with segue material.

Now that I know about SBEs, I generally run SHNTool before burning just in case.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:29 pm
by krabapple
Snap to zero crossing always works for me.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:35 pm
by JWB
I'm using CD WAVE right now, and it seems to be working. It's just a bit of a pain in the ass to use.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:55 pm
by lukpac
krabapple wrote:Snap to zero crossing always works for me.


That would prevent any pops/clicks, but you still could get gaps that shouldn't be there. You just wouldn't notice them as there wouldn't be any large amplitude changes.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:11 pm
by the 801
"Trader's Little Helper" is the best tool I've found for fixing any track split I've made:

http://thor.prohosting.com/roh0205/

I wanna cut where I wanna cut & this lil' doo-dad saves the day...

...pretty handy for other stuff as well.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:24 pm
by Xenu
Haha. OR you can just make sure the number of samples in any track is divisible by 588 (44100/75).

-D

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:35 pm
by lukpac
Or use a Mac :P

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:55 pm
by Crummy Old Label Avatar
I never knew that our Windows-using friends had to deal with such dilemmas. My condolences to you all.

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:16 pm
by lukpac
Crummy Old Label Avatar wrote:I never knew that our Windows-using friends had to deal with such dilemmas. My condolences to you all.


I've heard of it for years, but never experienced it. Well, many years ago (1998) when my buddy got his first CD burner, I had him burn the first run of LALC. Sure enough, there were pops between the tracks. That said, I don't know if it was his (crappy) burner, some issue with WAV files created on the Mac, or SBEs.

Lately the only burning I've done on the PC has been whole images.

As I type this from a PC...

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:01 pm
by Patrick M
lukpac wrote:Well, many years ago (1998) when my buddy got his first CD burner, I had him burn the first run of LALC. Sure enough, there were pops between the tracks. That said, I don't know if it was his (crappy) burner, some issue with WAV files created on the Mac, or SBEs.


TAO?

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:09 pm
by Patrick M