lukpac wrote:If a) that was true and b) Pete cared about money that much, it makes no sense than the box was comprised how it was. It seems possible that band recordings would necessarily be released by Universal, but Pete is free to do as he pleases with his demos. If there was anything where Pete was going to go off and do his own thing, it would have been the demos. Yet, those were put into the box.
I am tired tonight. Forgive me if my typos are even worse than usual. Live Who tapes are the crown jewels of the Pete archives. Universal cannot claim rights to them under the band's contract under normal circumstances. Nether can they claim the demos as contract recordings. The live tapes (arguably) are worth far more on the open market than are the demos.
You state that if Pete were going to go off and do anything (a record contract with Apple, Google, Sony, etc.) it would be for the demos. My opinion is that a Who archival release would be of more interest (providing it is not a very late show featuring Sister Disco, and You Better You Bet as the strongest and best known tunes). Both of our comments are opinion. Mine is based only on where one could mine the most cash. A Universal box set, or a standalone issue? My take is that getting as far away (with your crown jewels) from Universal is the smartest move. The Stones latest move confirms that move to some.
lukpac wrote:1) Who would buy a Goats Head Soup box?
Who(?) would buy a Goats Head Soup DE is not the point I was trying to make. (I would buy it if it had contained the (unissued) official mixdown of the 1973 live tapes, and a DVD concert film. Some would not, and are convinced that the Stones never made good records after Jones was ejected from the band.) It's the fact that Universal are not getting the live concert material from the Stones archives that I find interesting, and not so surprising.
lukpac wrote:2) You think a $9 download is going to yield more for Pete than a $100+ box?
Yes, especially if the box is a total "stiff" at retail during the Christmas holidays. But let's say the box is not a stiff, and does just fine for it's limited edition (w/o any concert material). It still then gives Pete the opportunity to exploit his 1973 concert tapes later. He can have his cake and eat it too. I think Universal's take of the action is so severe that (me) calling them a "towering inferno" is not all that far fetched imo. Some artists just call it a simply a "black hole."
lukpac wrote:If Universal isn't getting the live stuff, why did they get Hull? And Young Vic?
Young Vic (as included in the WN DE) was what seems like 10 years ago. A lot has happened in 10 years. Artists have sat and watched the towering inferno take out sky scrapers, as well as small indies. It's a different world.
My opinion again is that even if Pete wanted to issue UK 73' live Quad era as a stand alone release, he could go with Uni. But why throw it into a box set that one thinks is going to do well with just a partial 5.1, and a cool book, and demos.
I do not think it is just he wants to sit on this stuff forever, the work bores him, and he does not need the money. The Stones sat on Brussels 73 for 29 years, Pink Floyd sat in live UK 74 for 28 years. What's another year of two when your having fun?
But I will say that time and fate have a funny way of catching up with us. And if Pete wanted to slam the door shut and not bother with the hassle of old tapes and distant bad blood, and his time (on earth) came to an abrupt end, there are people that will finish the job for him and be glad to pick up the advances on the projects if there is any interest left by then. This stuff will come out weather he likes it or not.
lukpac wrote:I don't think it's about money at all. I think it's just Pete's vision, or lack thereof.
Wasn't is posted just recently on that other forum that Pet says that the UK leg of the Quad Tour produced some of the finest performances the band ever did? And that there are recordings?
I think Pete is a very bright guy, and considers this stuff, especially now that the unit as a touring act is near (if not at) it's end. And that he will want to show off his band's better nights, just as the Stones have finally done with their's.