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Dylan

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 8:43 am
by lukpac
Anyone get some/all of the SACDs yet?

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 9:34 am
by Rspaight
I'm still waiting on the box from Red Trumpet, which shipped Tuesday. If I'm real lucky, it'll be here today, but probably tomorrow or Saturday. I plan to immerse myself in Dylan over the weekend and report back.

In the meantime, they're getting rave reviews over at SH.tv, except for this bizarre thread:

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showt ... adid=21729

Again, the mere suggestion that something's been mastered "wrong" is enough to induce mass hysteria.

Ryan

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 10:00 am
by lukpac
Nice post. Think anyone in that thread has actually heard them?

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:34 pm
by Xenu
FWIW, I ripped "Tangled Up in Blue," and it's most certainly not finalized.

Sounds pretty good, too, although as I mentioned I don't have the old CD.

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 3:43 pm
by lukpac
"Finalized"?

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 4:10 pm
by Patrick M
I hate the digipacks thing. I'm also too cheap to buy them. They were $15 at Best Buy and $18, I think, at Disc Jockey. They don't seem to be up on cheap-cds.com yet.

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2003 11:02 pm
by Mike Hunte
Dylan took Brenda Walsh's virginity after the prom.

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2003 11:15 pm
by Xenu
Finalized, i.e. compressed/normalized. "The finalizer."

Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2003 6:51 pm
by Rspaight
Grumble grumble Post Office grumble grumble free shipping grumble grumble I'm a cheap bastard grumble grumble no Dylan this weekend.

Maybe Monday. Maybe later. Who knows.

Ryan

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 12:34 pm
by mikenycLI
I "hear" that Costco has the box set for $149.00. Good deal.

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 3:54 pm
by Rspaight
Yes, it is. $10 per disc. That's cheaper than I got it for, and I'm still waiting. Grumble grumble.

Ryan

Re: Dylan

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:08 am
by J_Partyka
lukpac wrote:Anyone get some/all of the SACDs yet?


This weekend I bought Bringing It All Back Home, Blonde on Blonde and Love and Theft. Blood on the Tracks is on its way via snail mail.

I haven't done any A/B comparisons yet with other versions (for the most part I lost interest some time ago in that kind of exercise); I've just listened to the SACD layers (stereo only, I'm not set up for multichannel) of each of the ones I have. On their own terms, I think they sound fantastic -- crystal-clear and very detailed. And, surprisingly, Love and Theft really packs a nice low-end punch I don't think I've heard before.

-- JP

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 8:16 am
by Rspaight
Another interesting thread over on SH:

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showt ... adid=21838

What a relief to know that Steve's disc still beats the SACD, if you copy them both to CD-R first.

If my box ever arrives, I'll give 'em both a listen and report back.

Ryan

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 8:40 am
by lukpac
I like the "SACD in general should be much better than CD due to the higher resolution" posts. Mind you, at the moment, the only SACDs I have are the Stones discs, but am I the only one that thinks that SACD isn't all *that* great? I've done a few comparisons, and I honestly don't think I could tell the difference between the CD and SACD layers on those discs.

I still think the mastering goes a lot farther than the format.

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 8:59 am
by Rspaight
I think all other things being equal, SACD has the potential to sound better than CD, but I tend to agree with you -- the quality of the mastering has a greater effect on the end product than the resolution of the format.

I was less-than-impressed with the SACD layers of the Stones stuff as well, but I've heard other SACDs that were pretty amazing (Gaucho, Stardust, Ghost in the Machine to name a few).

Ryan