New Who Japanese mini-LPs

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Re: New Who Japanese mini-LPs

Postby lukpac » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:06 am

Another round of mini-LPs from Japan, again with unique mastering. Here's the info from Who's/Two's Missing:

"Cardboard sleeve (mini LP) reissue from The Who featuring the high-fidelity SHM-CD format (compatible with standard CD players) and using 2011 DSD remaster based on the US analog master (subject to change). The cardboard sleeve faithfully replicates the US first press LP, which comes with a serial-numbered label card. Part of an eleven-album The Who SHM-CD cardboard sleeve reissue series featuring albums "Odds And Sodds +12," "Original Soundtrack Tommy," "The Who By Numbers +3," "Who Are You +5," "The Kids Are Alright," "Original Soundtrack Quadrophenia," "Face Dances +5," "It's Hard +4," "The Singles +9," "Who's Missing & Two's Missing +9," and "BBC Sessions +8.""

In the case of Who's/Two's Missing, the 2 disc set has the 2 original albums, plus Doctor, Doctor, Someone's Coming, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, Baby Don't You Do It, and Call Me Lightning from Rarities, Postcard, I Don't Even Know Myself and Eyesight To The Blind from the JPN Then & Now bonus CD and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde from Magic Bus.

The other albums will be the original albums in their original mixes followed by the '90s bonus tracks. Not sure if BBC (with the Best Buy bonus disc) will be remastered, or exactly how Who's/Two's Missing will be tackled in terms of source selection. Also not yet sure if The Singles will simply be a copy of what was used for the SHM-SACD or not.

Damn those Japanese and their expensive CDs!

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94775
Odds & Sods - "2011 DSD remaster based on the UK analog master"

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94776
Tommy Soundtrack - "2011 DSD remaster based on the UK analog master"

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94778
Who By Numbers - "2011 DSD remaster based on the UK analog master"

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94779
Who Are You - "2011 DSD remaster based on the UK analog master"

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94780
Kids Are Alright - "2011 DSD remaster based on the UK analog master"

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94781
Quad soundtrack - "2011 DSD remaster based on the UK analog master"

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94782
Face Dances - "2011 DSD remaster based on the UK analog master"

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94783
It's Hard - "2011 DSD remaster based on the UK analog master"

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94784
Singles - "2011 DSD remaster based on the analog tapes from UK and Japan"

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94786
Who's/Two's Missing - "2011 DSD remaster based on the US analog master"

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94788
BBC - "original master"
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Re: New Who Japanese mini-LPs

Postby lukpac » Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:36 am

Some more information...

lukpac wrote:http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94775
Odds & Sods - "2011 DSD remaster based on the UK analog master"


"Includes original mix versions of "Summertime Blues," "My Way," "Cousin Kevin Model Child," early mix version of "Young Man Blues," and full-length version of "Mary Anne with the Shaky Hand." *All of them are the world's first version."

Apparently Young Man Blues is either the take from the '98 O&S or yet another alternate take.

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94778
Who By Numbers - "2011 DSD remaster based on the UK analog master"


"Includes the world's first mix version of "Behind Blue Eyes (live).""

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94779
Who Are You - "2011 DSD remaster based on the UK analog master"


"This edition features the world's first original mix version of bonus track "No Road Romance.""

Supposedly this has Keith on drums.

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94782
Face Dances - "2011 DSD remaster based on the UK analog master"


"Includes the world's first original mix versions of "It's In You," "I Like Nightmares," and "Somebody Saved Me.""

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94784
Singles - "2011 DSD remaster based on the analog tapes from UK and Japan"


"Includes tracks "Magic Bus (long version)" from "MEATY, BEATY, BIG & BOUNCY," "Long Live Rock (mixed track)" from "The Ultimate Collection," and mixed version of "5:15" from original soundtrack "Quadrophenia.""

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94786
Who's/Two's Missing - "2011 DSD remaster based on the US analog master"


"Includes tracks "I'm a Boy" from "Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy," "Baby Don't Do It (the world's first full-length ver.)," the world's first original mixed version of "Fortune Teller" and "Melancholia," and "Call Me Lightning (mixed version without lead guitar).""

It will be interesting to see what exactly Baby Don't You Do It is. Call Me Lightning must be the version from Magic Bus (at least the CD; not sure what's on the LP).

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94788
BBC - "original master"


"Includes a bonus disc with seven songs released only at BEST BUY in US and interview."

I believe BBC was not remastered.

I believe most of the odd translations mean original/vintage mixes were used instead of the mixes done in the '90s for the reissues.
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Re: New Who Japanese mini-LPs

Postby Rspaight » Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:10 pm

Too bad these are so pricey, otherwise I'd be tempted by at least some of them. I also noticed they're re-issuing the My Generation and Quick One boxes at the end of the year -- My Gen is already sold out, and Quick One has one left.
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Re: New Who Japanese mini-LPs

Postby lukpac » Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:23 pm

lukpac wrote:
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-94786
Who's/Two's Missing - "2011 DSD remaster based on the US analog master"


"Includes tracks "I'm a Boy" from "Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy," "Baby Don't Do It (the world's first full-length ver.)," the world's first original mixed version of "Fortune Teller" and "Melancholia," and "Call Me Lightning (mixed version without lead guitar).""

It will be interesting to see what exactly Baby Don't You Do It is. Call Me Lightning must be the version from Magic Bus (at least the CD; not sure what's on the LP).


I overlooked the inclusion of Fortune Teller and Melancholia earlier. Those tracks aren't listed in English, but they are in the Japanese track listing:

1.13 - Doctor, Doctor
1.14 - Someone's Coming (US 45)
1.15 - Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (UK 45)
1.16 - Fortune Teller
1.17 - Postcard (EP version)
1.18 - Baby Don't You Do It

2.15 - Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (US 45)
2.16 - Call Me Lightning
2.17 - Melancholia
2.18 - Eyesight To The Blind (alternate vocal)
2.19 - Don't Even Know Myself (EP version)
"I know because it is impossible for a tape to hold the compression levels of these treble boosted MFSL's like Something/Anything. The metal particulate on the tape would shatter and all you'd hear is distortion if even that." - VD

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Re: New Who Japanese mini-LPs

Postby lukpac » Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:38 pm

Funny Japanese translations with slightly more info:

Who's Missing and Two's Missing +11 / Who

[Paper Series Who Jackets] edited collection of rare tracks of the U.S. "Who's Missing" (1984) and "Two's Missing" (1985) coupling, carefully selected by the best masters of each song Add the first domestic release bonus tracks 11. Around the track side single B, 1st Stereo music era Brunswick, and live in San Francisco in 1971, included some version here can not only be heard today. ■ DSD remastered sound in 2011 adopted based on the original analog master American / British ■ "Aimuaboi" is a greatest hits album, "Big and Bouncy Beatty Consequences Me Tea" takes from the "Baby Do not · Do It "is Furuva - John (world debut)," Fortune Teller, "" Melancholia "is an original mix (world debut)," Call Me Lightning "is a mix without the lead guitar acquisition (first CD). New commentary with bilingual lyrics label cards containing × 2 + × 2 ■ Mlps numbered Limited Edition reproduces the LP ■ U.S.

Odds & Sozzu +12 / Who

[Paper Series Who Jackets] visionary album "WHO'S FOR TENNIS" (1968), "LIFEHOUSE" (1971), "ROCK IS DEAD - LONG LIVE ROCK" (1972), such as songs from the past that John Entwistle planning board and then crossed to select an unreleased song, no less popular work on the album. Published in 1974. Of the 12 bonus tracks when it was remixed recurrence / year ■ 1998 remastered DSD remastering latest instrument adopted in 2011 based on the original analog master Britain ■, "Summertime Blues," "My Way" "Cousin Kevin Model Child" is an original mix, "Young Man Blues" is a sampler LP's track record, "The House That Track Built" takes a mix of early recordings, "Mary Anne" album included in the full version of the take. World's first appearance either! Also reproduces the LP cover paper label promo card ■ Japan into Inner Sleeve + serial + number of special die Mlps UK Limited Edition reproduces the LP ■ "Paper Jacket bonus" as set ■ ■ Bilingual lyrics range with a new commentary LP Limited Edition reproduces the design of the poster enclosed ■ Japan Limited Edition LP only benefit Japan
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Re: New Who Japanese mini-LPs

Postby Rspaight » Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:59 am

"Big and Bouncy Beatty Consequences Me Tea"

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Re: New Who Japanese mini-LPs

Postby lukpac » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:55 pm

Does it have Aimuaboi?
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Re: New Who Japanese mini-LPs

Postby Rspaight » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:48 pm

One can only hope.

I think I'm going to break down and get O&S and WM/TM. And It's Hard, just to further my quixotic quest for a decent-sounding version of the original mix (if that's possible). The rest don't look worth the $$$.

Oh, and seeing it here reminds me: do you know why they left "Melancholia" off the Sell Out deluxe?
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Postby lukpac » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:05 pm

Rspaight wrote:Oh, and seeing it here reminds me: do you know why they left "Melancholia" off the Sell Out deluxe?


Yeah...it didn't fit in the first place. It was a Who's For Tennis track (mid '68), not recorded around the time of the rest of the Sell Out stuff. It should be interesting to see what this mix is.

I ended up ordering 6 - Singles, Who's/Two's, O&S, WBN, WAY and Face Dances. I figure those are the ones that have unique stuff. Maybe I'll pick up more later. I've got an MCA CD of the It's Hard original mix...sounds fine to me.
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Postby Rspaight » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:23 am

I honestly don't know why I care, but I don't like the way the MCA sounds. I had the WB target, too, and it was crappy as well. (Just dull and flat-sounding.) The remix is better, but I hate the remix. So we'll see.

I can't bring myself to get FD, WAY and WBN for different mixes of the bonus tracks, especially WBN. Though if No Road Romance has a different drum track with Moon, that could be worthwhile.
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Re: New Who Japanese mini-LPs

Postby lukpac » Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:03 am

Re: It's Hard - I don't know. The MCA might have a small upper midrange peak that could possibly be tamed a bit, but for the most part to me it just sounds like a Glyn Johns production, for better or worse.

It will be interesting to see how WBN and WAY compare to the original CDs. I still wonder what MFSL used for a source for WAY.
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Postby Rspaight » Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:54 am

If these actually sound *good*, I'd be tempted to get WBN as well, though the old MCA sounds OK to me (and the remix of that is inoffensive). I'm content with the MFSL of WAY (hate the remix). For FD, I'm cooler than everyone with my MoFi vinyl. 8)
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Postby lukpac » Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:21 pm

I'm content with you being cooler.
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Re: New Who Japanese mini-LPs

Postby Rspaight » Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:07 pm

IGOTMINE.

Astley credited on everything for tape research and mastering. Very nice packaging as is usual for these things. O&S in particular is well done, with the die-cut sleeve. I'll bet WBN is a nice piece with the textured cover.

Playing O&S right now, and my first impression (without rigorous comparison) is that it's still a bit goosed but it doesn't seem as painful as the '98 disc. "Naked Eye" is playing right now, and if there's any NR it's very minimal. Don't know if any of the fuckups from the '98 have been fixed. "Leaving Here" seems as loud as the '98 disc. I'll actually compare 'em eventually, but I'm lazy.

(Edited to add: I don't hear any double-tracking on YMB, just some reverb.)

Oh, and It's Hard sounds a bit cleaner and clearer than the old MCA CD (unscientific first impression is more top end and/or a better source), but still pretty limp. Ah, well.

Haven't sampled WM/TM yet.
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Re: New Who Japanese mini-LPs

Postby Rspaight » Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:27 pm

Argh, I'm weak. I had some Xmas money burning a hole in my pocket, so I ordered WAY, WBN and FD as long as they were still in stock. I couldn't bring myself to order Singles for $45, even though it has the FIRST REMASTERED VERSION OF "RELAY" THAT'S NOT CROSSFADED.

Goddammit.
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