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SMALL FACES - OGDEN'S NUT GONE FLAKE Original 60s Stereo Mix

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:07 am
by Jeff T.
I have this LP on the TT right now as I write this, going to HD for needle drop. While this is known to be a different mix unissued on any CD, I am not sure that is it a better one. I have to errase a few clicks at start of each side and that is it! It's a good copy and I cleaned it well.

I'd be interested in the member's here comments. I'm using a Near Mint US pressing on pink Immediate Records, round cover. It's being blown out on ebay, and I may as well have it for later trades or someday listening.

Thank god for good sound cards and CD-Rs. Life is good.

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:18 pm
by Phil Elliott
This is the first I've heard this is a different mix. While I do know that the segue between "Afterglow ...." and "Long Agos" doesn't seem to be intact on any stereo CD (my first issue Castle CD seems to edit into mono at the last round of the descending "riff", then fades out), I've not heard any vintage vinyl copies.

Xenu? Anyone?

EDIT - I've realised your post doesn't specify mono/stereo. Which is it? Ta!

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:15 pm
by Xenu
I had HEARD that some US copies were a different mix, but I always thought it was apocryphal.

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:46 pm
by Jeff T.
Phil Elliott wrote:This is the first I've heard this is a different mix. While I do know that the segue between "Afterglow ...." and "Long Agos" doesn't seem to be intact on any stereo CD (my first issue Castle CD seems to edit into mono at the last round of the descending "riff", then fades out), I've not heard any vintage vinyl copies.

Xenu? Anyone?

EDIT - I've realised your post doesn't specify mono/stereo. Which is it? Ta!


Different segue between two key tracks is very strong pointer of a different mix imho.

Title of thread mentioned "stereo" LP I am working from.

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 6:58 pm
by Phil Elliott
Jeff T. wrote:Title of thread mentioned "stereo" LP I am working from.


And I'm a complete dunce. Thank you.

Jeff T. wrote:Different segue between two key tracks is very strong pointer of a different mix imho.


Except, it's more a case of "it goes from stereo to mono, then fails to segue". That seems to indicate someone took a stereo mix, then decided to replace the end of one song with the mono mix, for one reason or another. What about the rest of the album? Are there any further differences apart for that?

I've seen Xenu (a.k.a. David Goodwin) mention "Abkco" in relation to the seque thing; other than this, I can't tell you anything further.

And if you were to seque something, wouldn't you would want to leave it until after a mix session?

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:18 pm
by Xenu
FWIW, would anybody like a review of the Deluxe Edition?

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:21 pm
by Jeff T.
Phil Elliott wrote:Except, it's more a case of "it goes from stereo to mono, then fails to segue". That seems to indicate someone took a stereo mix, then decided to replace the end of one song with the mono mix, for one reason or another. What about the rest of the album? Are there any further differences apart for that?

I've seen Xenu (a.k.a. David Goodwin) mention "Abkco" in relation to the seque thing; other than this, I can't tell you anything further.

And if you were to seque something, wouldn't you would want to leave it until after a mix session?


Yes, it is completely possible there is some stereo, and then back to mono on the same side of the album. But both my UK and US originals do this. So it is not a matter of something being changed later for this particular original issue.

I will have to get the CD and run them both at the same time A to B and compare. I just read years ago about a later mix and the way to tell which of them one has.

Thanks for comments.

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:23 pm
by Jeff T.
Xenu wrote:FWIW, would anybody like a review of the Deluxe Edition?


Yes, you can post it (or the link) right here.

Thanks-sa-much

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:03 pm
by the 801
Can anyone post a lossless sample of the segue (ie. the last 30 seconds of 'After Glow' combined with the first 30 seconds of 'Long Agos...')?

TIA & much obliged!

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:24 pm
by Patrick M
Xenu wrote:FWIW, would anybody like a review of the Deluxe Edition?

No.

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:26 pm
by Patrick M
Xenu wrote:I had HEARD that some US copies were a different mix, but I always thought it was apocryphal.

Huh. I didn't think Jews acknowledged the Apocrphya.

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:43 am
by Xenu
Not only do we acknowledge it...I WROTE THE DAMN THING.

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:47 am
by lukpac
Xenu wrote:Not only do we acknowledge it...I WROTE THE DAMN THING.


Have any good BBQ lately?

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:39 pm
by Patrick M
The extra B is for BYOBB.

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 2:42 pm
by lukpac
What's that extra B for?