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Tommy CDs (Polydor)
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:42 pm
by lukpac
Interesting...got a Polydor copy of Tommy today (2 CDs; 800 077-2). Did a quick check, and Overture is digitally identical (or at least nulls) with the "NM" MCA disc. So either MCA just copied the Polydor for the "NM" set, or there's an earlier Polydor that I don't have. This one says "Made In Germany" on the inner rings, so it's obviously post 1990.
Disc 1 - 800 078-2 05 +
Disc 2 - 800 079-2 05 #
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:15 pm
by Xenu
I think I have a Polydor rip (from Andreas) and at least some of the "NM" Tommy at home...I'll do a check when I get back.
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:21 pm
by lukpac
Interesting that Fang doesn't list the NM version on his site.
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:27 pm
by Alexander Keith
I have a Polydor set that lists the discs manufactured in W. Germany by PDO so I assume it is an earlier version.
Disc 1 - 800 078-2 03 #
Disc 2 - 800 079-2 05 #
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:40 am
by Andreas
Xenu wrote:I think I have a Polydor rip (from Andreas)
Yes you have.
Made In W. Germany by PolyGram
Disc 1: 800078 2 01
Disc 2: 800079 2 02
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:22 am
by Phil Elliott
Alexander Keith wrote:I have a Polydor set that lists the discs manufactured in W. Germany by PDO so I assume it is an earlier version.
Disc 1 - 800 078-2 03 #
Disc 2 - 800 079-2 05 #
This matches my set; I got mine 1988/89.
Luke, do you still have that flac of overture? Is it the same?
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:06 am
by lukpac
Phil: It's around here somewhere. I'll see if I can find it. Andreas, can you send me a FLAC of Overture?
I'm not yet clear if the final number means anything on PolyGram pressings. Perhaps a new glass mastering, but I haven't yet seen something different digitally. Always a first, I suppose.
Everyone else have a double wide case? Mine's a slim-line. I should ask the seller if he got it like that, or switched out the double.
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:12 am
by Phil Elliott
lukpac wrote:Phil: It's around here somewhere. I'll see if I can find it.
No need, it's just as easy for me to upload it again:
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... AF0AB814E3
Mine's a double case, btw.
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:41 am
by Andreas
Here is Overture from my double CD. (Big old-fashioned double case. The spine reads "800 077-2 YH2". )
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... D020B079A2
It is a completely different mastering than what Phil posted above. Phil's is more compressed, almost clanging. Really surprising, they sound
very different.
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:58 am
by Phil Elliott
Wow. Very different indeed, and the above sample is a lot quieter.
The bottom end is just boomy on my discs. It's more balanced an Andreas' sample. The midrange isn't as smooth on Andreas' clip, but overall, it's still better for me - seems to be from a better tape aswell; there's an anomoly on the second hit on my sample - the other clip doesn't have it.
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:00 am
by Andreas
Yes. The mastering on my disc tends to be a little bright or bass-weak, but that's really minor compared to the booming on Phil's disc.
Have a look at the waveforms. Very interesting.
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:25 am
by lukpac
Downloading both now. I'll try and get to them this afternoon. So much for not remastering...
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:39 am
by lukpac
Other than some different samples at 0:00:26, EAC seems to think Phil's is the same as mine. I'll load stuff up in ProTools later.
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:50 am
by Phil Elliott
Can we have a look at disc 2 aswell?
How about Pinball Wizard:
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 0E6E23E932
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:26 am
by Andreas
Pinball Wizard:
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 9A0DB44FAB
The two masterings of Pinball Wizard are different in the same manner. Louder, more compressed and booming on Phil's sample, thinner and less bass/lower midrange but more dynamic on mine.