Tommy CDs (Polydor)

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Tommy CDs (Polydor)

Postby lukpac » Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:42 pm

Interesting...got a Polydor copy of Tommy today (2 CDs; 800 077-2). Did a quick check, and Overture is digitally identical (or at least nulls) with the "NM" MCA disc. So either MCA just copied the Polydor for the "NM" set, or there's an earlier Polydor that I don't have. This one says "Made In Germany" on the inner rings, so it's obviously post 1990.

Disc 1 - 800 078-2 05 +
Disc 2 - 800 079-2 05 #
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Postby Xenu » Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:15 pm

I think I have a Polydor rip (from Andreas) and at least some of the "NM" Tommy at home...I'll do a check when I get back.
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Postby lukpac » Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:21 pm

Interesting that Fang doesn't list the NM version on his site.
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Postby Alexander Keith » Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:27 pm

I have a Polydor set that lists the discs manufactured in W. Germany by PDO so I assume it is an earlier version.

Disc 1 - 800 078-2 03 #
Disc 2 - 800 079-2 05 #

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Postby Andreas » Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:40 am

Xenu wrote:I think I have a Polydor rip (from Andreas)


Yes you have.
Made In W. Germany by PolyGram
Disc 1: 800078 2 01
Disc 2: 800079 2 02

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Postby Phil Elliott » Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:22 am

Alexander Keith wrote:I have a Polydor set that lists the discs manufactured in W. Germany by PDO so I assume it is an earlier version.

Disc 1 - 800 078-2 03 #
Disc 2 - 800 079-2 05 #


This matches my set; I got mine 1988/89.

Luke, do you still have that flac of overture? Is it the same?
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Postby lukpac » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:06 am

Phil: It's around here somewhere. I'll see if I can find it. Andreas, can you send me a FLAC of Overture?

I'm not yet clear if the final number means anything on PolyGram pressings. Perhaps a new glass mastering, but I haven't yet seen something different digitally. Always a first, I suppose.

Everyone else have a double wide case? Mine's a slim-line. I should ask the seller if he got it like that, or switched out the double.
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Postby Phil Elliott » Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:12 am

lukpac wrote:Phil: It's around here somewhere. I'll see if I can find it.


No need, it's just as easy for me to upload it again:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... AF0AB814E3

Mine's a double case, btw.
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Postby Andreas » Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:41 am

Here is Overture from my double CD. (Big old-fashioned double case. The spine reads "800 077-2 YH2". )

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... D020B079A2

It is a completely different mastering than what Phil posted above. Phil's is more compressed, almost clanging. Really surprising, they sound very different.

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Postby Phil Elliott » Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:58 am

Wow. Very different indeed, and the above sample is a lot quieter.

The bottom end is just boomy on my discs. It's more balanced an Andreas' sample. The midrange isn't as smooth on Andreas' clip, but overall, it's still better for me - seems to be from a better tape aswell; there's an anomoly on the second hit on my sample - the other clip doesn't have it.
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Postby Andreas » Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:00 am

Yes. The mastering on my disc tends to be a little bright or bass-weak, but that's really minor compared to the booming on Phil's disc.

Have a look at the waveforms. Very interesting.

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Postby lukpac » Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:25 am

Downloading both now. I'll try and get to them this afternoon. So much for not remastering...
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Postby lukpac » Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:39 am

Other than some different samples at 0:00:26, EAC seems to think Phil's is the same as mine. I'll load stuff up in ProTools later.
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Postby Phil Elliott » Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:50 am

Can we have a look at disc 2 aswell?

How about Pinball Wizard:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 0E6E23E932
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Postby Andreas » Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:26 am

Pinball Wizard: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 9A0DB44FAB

The two masterings of Pinball Wizard are different in the same manner. Louder, more compressed and booming on Phil's sample, thinner and less bass/lower midrange but more dynamic on mine.