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Luke, thought you'd find this amusing (or not).

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showt ... genumber=1

You can set your watch by the appearance of these threads. Any bets on when it gets locked and someone gets tossed?

Ryan

All I can say is:

Dob = my hero (Roger Nichols too)

and

If you readily admit that you don't know much about jitter, don't try and tell everyone that:
- what you're hearing *can't* be because of jitter
- it must be in the mastering
- it must not be system dependant
- your system is better than mine

Somebody needs to post the following. Any doubts should be *instantly* gone. You'd think, anyway:

http://www.rogernichols.com/EQ/EQ_2000_02.html

I copied the audio from the bad pressing into my computer and burned a CD-R from the audio file. The CD-R sounded just like the ref.

Is this not the exact same shit I said over and over?

You guys just like to see my blood pressure rise, don't you?

You guys just like to see my blood pressure rise, don't you?

We take whatever entertainment we can get.

Ryan

I've long said that jitter can be removed.

I agree, Grant. I'm no expert, but I always figured it was an artifact of the media, not the data. If you could get the data off the "defective" medium (funny-sounding bit-for-bit copy) and rewrite it to a different medium (say, by ripping and burning to a CDR), you could theoretically affect the jitter, either positively or negatively.

I gotta wonder, though -- since SACD and DVD-A datastreams are more "computer-like" in their nature (not just ramming bits through a D/A converter, but processed with decompression, buffering and so on), is jitter a factor with those media?

Ryan

Grant wrote:I've long said that jitter can be removed.

Yes, we all have. However, talking to certain people is like talking to a brick wall. "But on my superior system!" "It's in the mastering!" "They aren't the same!"