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Thankyou for your tome on the Stones hybrids

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:58 pm
by Haggis
Hello to all of you. I grieved as I searched the internet for something reliable on the Stones reissues until I discovered Luke and Dave's little gem. Excellent.

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:47 pm
by Xenu
And we will be updating it.

Soon.

Really.

I mean, it's about freakin' time, eh?

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 11:27 pm
by Crummy Old Label Avatar
Please include Monkey Grip quad info in the updated FAQ. Thanks!

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:33 am
by Andreas
I don't want to sound critical, but there are some holes in the FAQ. For example, this is the paragraph about Their Satanic Majesties Request.
Definitive Version: ABKCO remaster

Unlike some of the other early-ABKCO discs, this one never sounded too bad; the
London is only a slight step up (the early German London/Japanese discs have slightly
different EQ than the later German Londons) compared with the slightly dull, static-prone
ABKCO. The ABKCO seems to be made from a tape copied from the same source as the
London, as track switches are *very* close. Note that the early-ABKCO version of this
disc is the only one with a noticeable fade-up, this time on "See What Happens," which
has its beginning organ notes truncated. ABKCO *also* incorrectly indexed their disc,
putting the "Cosmic Christmas" end to side 1 at the beginning of side 2 (and, thus, with
"She's a Rainbow").

The current remaster sounds fine, if a bit compressed. Any non-early-ABKCO
version should be perfectly satisfactory.

The entire paragraph does not contain any word about a comparison of the London CD against the remaster. Yet, the remaster is called the "definitive version." There should at least be some explanation why and how the remaster beats the London CD (in your opinion).

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:31 am
by Xenu
That's because there really weren't too many differences, actually.

I'm perfectly happy to write huge chunks of text. What's always kept me from updating is that I hate the process of integrating it into the original work.

And feel free to be critical!

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:08 am
by Andreas
Xenu wrote:That's because there really weren't too many differences, actually.

If they are very similar, how can one be the "definitive version"?

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:52 am
by Xenu
I guess I didn't make it clear in that case. The current ABKCO won by default, because there weren't any huge differences, and the current ABKCO--while compressed a bit--is fine. I didn't want to be in the position of saying "Track down the London disc" without a good reason to do so.

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:27 am
by Andreas
Xenu wrote: The current ABKCO won by default, because there weren't any huge differences, and the current ABKCO--while compressed a bit--is fine. I didn't want to be in the position of saying "Track down the London disc" without a good reason to do so.

I understand that. But from the FAQ, it sounds as if the remaster is necessary, even if one already owns the London CD. There are people who have all the London CDs, and would like to know which remasters are apparent improvements.

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:03 am
by dudelsack
Are you planning to include info on which discs of the London, ABKCO, and remaster series are in actual mono vs. stereo-monic?

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:28 pm
by lukpac
That idea has been floated, yes.

Finding the time for all of this is the problem.

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:44 pm
by Mike Hunte
lukpac wrote:Finding the time for all of this is the problem.


Oh jeez...my records are doomed. Mike Hunte RIP 1965-2005 :cry:

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:44 pm
by Xenu
Andreas wrote:
Xenu wrote: The current ABKCO won by default, because there weren't any huge differences, and the current ABKCO--while compressed a bit--is fine. I didn't want to be in the position of saying "Track down the London disc" without a good reason to do so.

I understand that. But from the FAQ, it sounds as if the remaster is necessary, even if one already owns the London CD. There are people who have all the London CDs, and would like to know which remasters are apparent improvements.


Well, I'll be happy to either make that one clearer or to do a more in-depth shootout.

-D