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Postby Phil Elliott » Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:16 pm

No. I don't have the remix. Saying that though ... why would a 60Hz hum be on a recording made in England?
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Postby lukpac » Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:37 pm

Phil Elliott wrote:No. I don't have the remix. Saying that though ... why would a 60Hz hum be on a recording made in England?


No idea, but I just don't want to assume it's an issue with the mastering on the CD...

What about Quad tracks on other CDs?
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Postby Phil Elliott » Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:14 pm

Fair point. I can't be certain about my AD stage thing anyways.

Hmmm ...

Love Reign O'er Me seems to have 60Hz stuff going on from Who Collection and Ultimate Collection, in addition to Quad itself. Who Collection also has 50Hz stuff.

5.15 original mix I can't compare - Ultimate Collection cuts off far too early and has NR, and the sound effects at the beginning rule out digging around for hum. The end is intact on Quad' though - 60Hz stuff is all there is.

5.15 1979 mix doesn't seem to have much of anything at all, except from what sounds like guitar amp buzz at the end. This is from Who Collection, and Singles.

Is there something else obvious I'm forgetting other than the box set? Is it worth me digging it out? I can do, it's just that with all those crossfades and all ... EDIT - Just realised there's only Bell Boy and Love Reign ... that's going to be relevant. I'll have a look.

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Postby Phil Elliott » Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:29 pm

Ok ... Can't glean anything from the boxset, re Hz. But...

The original mixes Bell Boy and Love Reign O'er Me are much thinner compared to the Quad disc (or Who Collection), and there's a dropout in Bell Boy on the box version. Where did they source these?
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Postby Xenu » Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:05 pm

I always thought that the box-set version of the Quad tracks sounded pretty grainy compared with all other versions I was used to at the time (the soundtrack and the remix CD). I don't think I've listened to 'em since.
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Postby lukpac » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:01 am

Phil Elliott wrote:Is there something else obvious I'm forgetting other than the box set? Is it worth me digging it out? I can do, it's just that with all those crossfades and all ... EDIT - Just realised there's only Bell Boy and Love Reign ... that's going to be relevant. I'll have a look.


MFSL set. Have that one?

Also, anyone have their LPs handy? I'm curious as to who mastered them. The remix CD indicates that George Jones (??) did the original mastering, while the old MCA CD has a credit for Arnie Acosta. The old Polydor has no mastering credit that I can see.
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Postby Rspaight » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:32 am

I'll check tonight. I've got an early issue MCA (minty fresh with perfect booklet for $1 at a yard sale!) and a German Polydor (from the Phases box).

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Postby lukpac » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:45 am

I think I've got an MCA hiding away too. Don't remember it sounding very good.
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Postby David R. Modny » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:50 am

lukpac wrote:I think I've got an MCA hiding away too. Don't remember it sounding very good.


I think you still have those MFSL vs. MCA samples in my folder if you ever want to compare.

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Postby lukpac » Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:08 pm

I meant vinyl. I know I've got a copy of the MCA CD.
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Postby Rspaight » Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:54 pm

lukpac wrote:I think I've got an MCA hiding away too. Don't remember it sounding very good.


No, it's nothing to write home about. The Polydor doesn't bowl me over, either. I think when it comes to Quad, at least the original mix, everything sounds murky.

But as far as I'm concerned, everything's an upgrade from the first copy I owned -- a Columbia Record Club LP on ultra-thin vinyl. :shock:

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Postby krabapple » Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:25 pm

Xenu wrote:
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The first time through it's the MCA, the second time the Polydor (old CD).

I no longer think they sound all that similar.

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well, if you look at the file as a .wav, they're obviously different.
So I'm not surprised they sound different (which they do, to me) . Different EQ for sure.
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Postby Rspaight » Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:48 pm

lukpac wrote:Also, anyone have their LPs handy? I'm curious as to who mastered them. The remix CD indicates that George Jones (??) did the original mastering, while the old MCA CD has a credit for Arnie Acosta. The old Polydor has no mastering credit that I can see.


This is somewhat interesting. The German Polydor is credited to George Jones at The Mastering Lab, L.A.. The MCA is credited to Arnie Acosta, also at The Mastering Lab, L.A..

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Postby lukpac » Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:54 pm

Which Polydor and MCA? Original or remix?

I don't have the Polydor remix, but of what I do have:

MCA original mix - Arnie Acosta
Polydor original mix - no credit (unless I'm missing it)
MCA remix - George Jones (???)
MCA LP - Arnie Acosta

That blows my theory that maybe Acosta mastered the CD...
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Postby Rspaight » Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:36 am

Those are the LPs I mentioned above.

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