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Byrds - She Don't Care About Time mixes on Sundazed

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:25 am
by Chris M
OK, I'm totally confused about the first version of She Don't Care About Time on the Sundazed LP only Columbia Singles '65-'67 set. Where does the unique version/mix come from (it's track 7)? Actually, I think it's unique to this set but I'm not totally sure. In any event it's not the original single mix nor is it the early take with the piano intro on the TTT reissue...

Again, I'm refering to track 7 on the Sundazed LP. This version sounds like a totally different performance when compared to the 2 versions on the TTT reissue. The reissue has the original mono 45 mix (no harmonica during the solo and the halting drum pattern during the verses) as well as an early take that has piano during the intro, a more straight forward drum part with the harmonica during the solo. The Sundazed version really sounds like a completely different performance. At the very least it some of the drums, guitar and vocals are completely different performances. Can someone break this down for me?

Thanks, Chris

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:28 am
by Xenu
I think it's one of the bonuses they threw on, like the other version of "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue"...?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:43 am
by Rspaight
That track was the B-side to a single that was never released ("It's All Over Now, Baby Blue"). The LP's liners say it was recorded on June 28, 1965. The other version (track 4 on side 2 of the LP) is listed as being recorded on August 23, 1965 and was released as the B-side to "Turn! Turn! Turn!".

From the LP's liner notes for "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue":

Issued here for the first time, this recording was played at the Columbia Records Convention in July 1965 - salespeople were informed that it would be the next Byrds' single. This track, coupled with "She Don't Care About Time" (version one) as the B-side, would make it to the acetate stage, but no further.


Ryan

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:56 am
by lukpac
Both those unreleased versions mono?

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:01 am
by Rspaight
Yes. The whole 2-LP set is mono single mixes.

Ryan

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:32 am
by Chris M
Thanks guys. I only have a needle drop of the set so I hadn't been exposed to the liner notes.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:04 pm
by Xenu
I wish this thing would be released on CD. JWBs needle drop is good, but it sounds as if the pressing itself is a bit distorted.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:16 pm
by Chris M
Xenu wrote:I wish this thing would be released on CD. JWBs needle drop is good, but it sounds as if the pressing itself is a bit distorted.


Me too. I have the same needle drop and the unreleased mixes of She Don't Care About Time and Baby Blue sound worse than the surrounding tracks. IIRC the multitracks for Baby Blue were missing so they put the early version on the TTT reissue. None of those mono mixes sound that good too me. I like remixes on the reissues better.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:59 pm
by lukpac
Chris M wrote:IIRC the multitracks for Baby Blue were missing so they put the early version on the TTT reissue.


The Sony CD, or Sundazed LP? The Sony CD has a stereo remix.

That said, I prefer some of the alt takes I have on boot, but alas they don't have vocals.

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:38 pm
by Chris M
lukpac wrote:
Chris M wrote:IIRC the multitracks for Baby Blue were missing so they put the early version on the TTT reissue.


The Sony CD, or Sundazed LP? The Sony CD has a stereo remix.



The Sundazed LP version. The version of Baby Blue on the TTT reissue is a stereo remix of an early version, it's listed as Baby Blue (version 1).

I want to say that I read somewhere that the multiracks for the other version of Baby Blue (the one on the Sundazed LP that was almost released as a 45) were missing but I can't remember where I heard that. Maybe it was on SH.tv, not that that proves anything.

How interesting is that Byrds Journals set?

BTW, I picked up the Sundazed Another Dimension and it's excellent. I'll post a review of it when I get a chance.

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:39 am
by JWB
Did you guys notice all the buzzing and noise on the "Eight Miles High" single? It's in the recording or mastering...it's not vinyl noise. Do you guys know anything about that? I'm not a Byrds expert.

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:44 am
by lukpac
Chris M wrote:How interesting is that Byrds Journals set?


?

I don't remember the title of this bootleg offhand. I can tell you it has a tan cover...<g>

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:24 am
by Xenu
Chris M wrote:How interesting is that Byrds Journals set?



One interesting thing about it is that it in no way needs to be 8 discs! The entire thing SHNed (not FLACed, which would likely make it even smaller) is around 2 gigs.

Content-wise, I actually find it less interesting than the Satanic Sessions, which it most resembles. The takes are fun, but not generally revelatory.

I have a CDR set of generally-unknown origin. I have *never* seen an actual copy of the set (same with the original, 3-disc, where-the-hell-did-they-all-go "Black Box").