Badfinger - Day After Day Live

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Badfinger - Day After Day Live

Postby Beatlesfan03 » Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:28 am

Saw this at Half Price Books and was somewhat intrigued by it since it was recorded here in Cleveland at the old Agora. Anyone know about the qualty on this?
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Postby lukpac » Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:03 pm

YMMV, but I'm pretty hardcore into Badfinger, and I don't really have any interest in ever hearing this again (I bought it, skipped through it, then returned it).

A good chunk of the parts were re-recorded by Joey Molland:

http://hjem.get2net.dk/Badfingernews/lawsuit.html

As a listening experience I find that this CD is a poor representation of a live concert in 1974. I feel that it has little sense of authenticity due to the production values that have been adhered to in its creation.

The bass drum and snare drum appear to have been replaced with samples... The listener is only able to discern the sampled sounds.

The bass guitar on the CD appears to have a round sound that I doubt could have been produced solely from the sound recorded on the original 16 track tape. The parts played by the bass on the CD are not identical to the performance on tape. I would suggest that another bass part has been overdubbed...

Many of the guitar parts on the CD are significantly different in tonality and notation and have clearly been re-recorded in a studio environment... Other guitars have been double-tracked and chorused heavily.

There are additional backing vocal parts on some songs whose quality and performance suggest that new recordings were made for the CD...

The 4 songs that were played live, but were not included in the final CD are: "Suitcase," "Perfection," "Only You Know And I Know," "Johnny B. Goode."

Re-recordings or new recordings discerned from CD comparison to the 16-track master tape: (Foster was not supplied with Joey's 24-track with the new overdubs added. Joey claimed it had been lost)

Sometimes - Joey lead vocal, rhythm guitar, bass, backing vocals, added drums, drum samples
I Don't Mind - Joey lead vocal, backing vocals, bass, rhythm guitar, lead guitar, drum samples
Blind Owl - backing vocals, rhythm guitar, bass, drum samples
Give It Up - Joey lead vocal, rhythm guitar, lead guitar, backing vocals, bass, drum samples
Constitution - Joey lead vocal, rhythm guitar, bass, added drums, drum samples
Baby Blue - backing vocals, rhythm guitar, lead guitar, bass, drum samples
Name Of The Game - rhythm guitar, backing vocals, bass, drum samples
Day After Day - rhythm guitar, backing vocals, bass, drum samples
Timeless - rhythm guitar, bass, backing vocals, drum samples
I Can't Take It - rhythm guitar, lead guitar, backing vocals, bass, drum samples


That just about says it all, but the end result is really, really bad. Worse than those damn drums on Lady Friend.
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Postby J_Partyka » Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:56 pm

lukpac wrote:I bought it, skipped through it, then returned it.


I did the same. Absolutely dreadful. Which is a shame, because a genuine live Badfinger CD from that period would be really nice to have.

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Postby Beatlesfan03 » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:01 pm

Glad I passed on this then. Thanks for the help guys.
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Postby lukpac » Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:02 pm

J_Partyka wrote:Which is a shame, because a genuine live Badfinger CD from that period would be really nice to have.


I know we've talked about it before, and while far from perfect, this is certainly better than the Ryko CD.
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Postby Alexander Keith » Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:43 pm

lukpac wrote:I know we've talked about it before, and while far from perfect, this is certainly better than the Ryko CD.


Many times better - that Ryko disk is unlistenable.

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Postby lukpac » Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:02 am

"I know because it is impossible for a tape to hold the compression levels of these treble boosted MFSL's like Something/Anything. The metal particulate on the tape would shatter and all you'd hear is distortion if even that." - VD

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Postby CitizenDan » Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:02 am

Ditto on the listened-to-it-once-and-pitched-it story.

Without knowing the background, I knew right away it wasn't a 1974 recording. This and the Hendrix Winterland CD made me give up on RykoDisc; they just couldn't resist putting a big glob of '80s on every archival recording they released.
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Postby lukpac » Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:47 am

What was the deal with the Hendrix CD?
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Postby CitizenDan » Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:47 pm

No overdubs, but plenty of digital processing. If you compare it to soundboard tapes of the same shows, you can hear where they did some subtle (and IMO unnecessary) tampering.
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Postby czeskleba » Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:10 pm

Any tampering on the Hendrix CD was probably the work of Douglas, not Ryko, and Ryko was probably powerless to do anything about it (as in the case of their Elvis CDs, on which they had no input).