Sterling Sound remastering US Beatles albums

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Postby lukpac » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:26 pm

ProTools Free on the Mac. The EQ is whatever plug-in Digidesign gives away with it.

I can post the settings, but as I've noted, I think the AHDN tracks need a bit different EQ than the BFS tracks, for example. I haven't even looked at the MTB tracks yet.
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Postby Beatlesfan03 » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:40 pm

Rspaight wrote:The box peaked at #35 on the Top 200 chart, apparently. It's not in the top 100 of this week's chart (which is all you can see free online).

Barely made Top 40.

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Cost may have been a factor in it, wouldn't you think?

Wasn't there a Bon Jovi box set that came that day as well, how did that chart?
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Postby Rspaight » Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:12 pm

Beatlesfan03 wrote:Cost may have been a factor in it, wouldn't you think?


Oh, definitely. Expecting it to go gold or something would have been unrealistic. But 35,000 copies the first week still seems anemic to me.

I didn't expect it to hit #1, like some interested observers, but I thought it'd be more successful than that.

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Postby Beatlesfan03 » Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:58 pm

Rspaight wrote:Oh, definitely. Expecting it to go gold or something would have been unrealistic. But 35,000 copies the first week still seems anemic to me.

I didn't expect it to hit #1, like some interested observers, but I thought it'd be more successful than that.


I guess all the first generation fans that were going to blow the sales out the roof didn't make it out in droves as Michael boldly predicted.

To be honest with you, I didn't know that box sets charted on the regular Billboard chart, I figured there was a special chart for those releases.

I'm sure Vol. 2 will happen, but I think that will be it. It'll be the Early Beatles, Rubber Soul, Revolver, and Yesterday and Today. I really see no point in reissuing A Hard Day's Night and Help. I don't think anyone really cares about the scores on those albums. If anything, maybe issue a 2 CD set down the road and call "The Beatles Movie Music...Naked" or something lame like that.

The Beatles Story? I own it on LP and don't listen to it, I doubt a CD will change my mind. I'm sure many others feel this way too.

I don't see the need for Hey Jude either. Past Masters ties that up rather nicely. I didn't bother even glancing at those "What will be on the Capitol Albums vol. 666?" threads at SH.TV because even trying to guess what Apple/Capitol are going to do is a pointless exercise. Then again, who would thought we'd see the US albums on CD.
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Postby Xenu » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:08 pm

Well, what's the freakin' point of the US Revolver?
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Postby lukpac » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:23 pm

What's the point of any of this?

You forgot VI, BTW.

I don't see how they *couldn't* issue Help, although the score aspect is an interesting one.
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Postby David » Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:21 am

I disagree. I think the next one will be in chronilogical order. Beatles VI, The Early Beatles, Help, and Rubber Soul.
Volume 3 (if there is one) should be Y&T, Pepper (for the mono), MMT, and Hey Jude.
Issuing Revolver is pointless. Although MMT is already on CD, the US version has a few exclusive mixes.
Does anyone think they will take this the whole way issuing Rock n' Roll, and Reel Music?

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Postby lukpac » Thu Dec 09, 2004 12:35 am

Some of us would rather not think about all of this.
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Postby Xenu » Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:29 am

David wrote:I disagree. I think the next one will be in chronilogical order. Beatles VI, The Early Beatles, Help, and Rubber Soul.
Volume 3 (if there is one) should be Y&T, Pepper (for the mono), MMT, and Hey Jude.
Issuing Revolver is pointless. Although MMT is already on CD, the US version has a few exclusive mixes.
Does anyone think they will take this the whole way issuing Rock n' Roll, and Reel Music?


Exclusive mixes? Aren't most of 'em fake stereo? The only one I can think of offhand is the "original" stereo mix of SFF, and that can easily be appended somewhere as a bonus track.
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Postby David » Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:07 am

I Am The Walrus is also a different mix. How about just a CD of exclusive US mixes with the exclusive mix songs from Love Songs, Reel Music and what ever else there is?

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Postby Gee Oh Are Tea » Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:18 am

Though I agree with the sentiment, I think once you start getting into the "exclusive" realm, it's "ball game over" (unless these "new" releases were shifting by the shitload). I think you may get dual stereo-mono releases up to MMT (with Pepper being only mono). There's nothing really "uncharted" here because the EP and Singles Box Sets have already covered the mono side of things, you need mono to provide value (i.e not selling 34-minute discs) to the stereo US releases, and a mono Pepper was in the works before. I don't think you'll see a mono White Album or a release of the 70's compilations (R&R Music, Love Songs, etc), despite their unique mixes. Capitol will see that there's only so much Beatle product that can be shifted (at least to their expectations). You're more likely to see a reissue program out of the UK (with mono-stereo twofer's and the Past Masters collection extended to three discs (including mono singles and the addition of the stereo mixes found on the bonus EP in the EP collection)).

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Postby lukpac » Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:39 am

David wrote:I Am The Walrus is also a different mix.


The only difference in the stereo mix is the first few beats are cut off. That's it. The mono LP version/mix is nearly identical to the UK mono - there's an edit that's slightly different, but it's in the same place. The mono *single* version (US) is the one with the extra bit after "I'm crying".

How about just a CD of exclusive US mixes with the exclusive mix songs from Love Songs, Reel Music and what ever else there is?


I don't really think there's much "exclusive" to those albums, really. A CD (or two) of exclusive US mixes would make a lot more sense, but we're already past that point I'm afraid, with the vol 1 box.
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Postby Rspaight » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:00 am

I don't see the need for Hey Jude either. Past Masters ties that up rather nicely.


Well, from a "memories flood my mind with bliss" perspective, I'd kinda like to see Hey Jude, just because I freakin' love that "album." For my money, it might be the best LP the Beatles ever released. But I made a CD-R of it from Past Masters, and that's plenty good enough.

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Postby lukpac » Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:06 am

Of course, Can't Buy Me Love and A Hard Day's Night were not available on a Capitol LP previously, so it *is* somewhat necessary. Then again, there wasn't a mono release of Hey Jude (LP).

Now that I think about it, AHDN was never on a Capitol LP until 62-66.

In terms of "need", it's probably better to just not think about it. Did we "need" vol 1?
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Postby Beatlesfan03 » Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:57 pm

lukpac wrote:What's the point of any of this?


Caused I'm not qualified enough to start a Who's Next thread. :smile: Which leads to...

lukpac wrote:You forgot VI, BTW.


...obviously not qualified discuss the US Beatles album either as I keep forgetting details about them.

lukpac wrote:I don't see how they *couldn't* issue Help, although the score aspect is an interesting one.


You have a point, but I highly doubt the majority of people back in the day bought "Help" to get that kick ass Ken Thorne score.

To be honest, I'm not surprised a Deluxe "AHDN" with songs and score didn't appear with the 40th anniversary of the film. I doubt anything like this would happen for Help!

Xenu wrote:Well, what's the freakin' point of the US Revolver?

"Cause I'm used to the Capitol version which is infinitely superior because it is all I had growing up."

Or so they say. :roll:

David wrote:Does anyone think they will take this the whole way issuing Rock n' Roll, and Reel Music?


Probably not, the Beatles weren't too keen on Rock 'n' Roll or Love Songs. I'm sure they probably weren't high on Reel Music either. Plus, do we really need to clog the marketplace with songs already overflowing in our collections. Though the biz loves to flog a dead horse.

Rspaight wrote:Well, from a "memories flood my mind with bliss"....


Zat you Michael??? :) But seriously, it is a great album.

lukpac wrote:In terms of "need", it's probably better to just not think about it. Did we "need" vol 1?


Probably not.
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