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Postby Rspaight » Mon Nov 03, 2003 7:39 pm

Xenu wrote:FWIW, there's finally progress being made on the whole UDI vs UDII thread, with a few people (thanks, Ryan!) standing firm that when digital says that two discs are identical, barring jitter, etc., they *are* identical.

Dave's using the "But Steve promised my ears are more accurate" approach.


Ah, good old Sean O'Berry. What a mischevious scamp.

Actually, I hadn't posted in that thread, though David Modny did. I did just put in a kind word, though.

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Postby Mike Hunte » Tue Nov 04, 2003 1:07 am

Rspaight wrote:
Actually, I hadn't posted in that thread, though David Modny did.



What kind of name is Modny? It's sounds like some kind of orthopedic device.
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Postby Ron » Tue Nov 04, 2003 6:00 pm

Mike Hunte wrote:
Rspaight wrote:
Actually, I hadn't posted in that thread, though David Modny did.



What kind of name is Modny? It's sounds like some kind of orthopedic device.


In an effort to achieve Senior Status, you promised *quality* posts a while back, Mike. Making fun of a strange name like "Modny" hardly qualifies.
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Postby Mike Hunte » Tue Nov 04, 2003 7:43 pm

Ron wrote:[

In an effort to achieve Senior Status, you promised *quality* posts a while back, Mike. Making fun of a strange name like "Modny" hardly qualifies.


I had my fingers crossed behind my back.

You're right though. Afterall, I get jokes about my name all the time. I might even have to change it to Modny...if he'll let me.
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Postby Ron » Wed Nov 05, 2003 3:46 am

What jokes do you get about your name? Oh. And I'm not amused about the "fingers crossed" bit. Senior Status, sadly, would appear to be beyond your grasp.
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Postby Mike Hunte » Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:45 am

Ron wrote: Senior Status, sadly, would appear to be beyond your grasp.


Now, I'm hurt. I have nothing to live for. Where's my rope and ceiling beam.
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Postby Phil Elliott » Wed Nov 05, 2003 9:14 am

Mike Hunte wrote:
Ron wrote: Senior Status, sadly, would appear to be beyond your grasp.


Now, I'm hurt. I have nothing to live for. Where's my rope and ceiling beam.


Both in the ceiling where you left them.
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Postby Rspaight » Wed Nov 05, 2003 9:23 am

Oh, my....I would love to get involved in that thread and respond to bunk like this:


Just couldn't resist, could you?

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Postby krabapple » Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:55 pm

I'm glad he couldn't resist. His replies were accurate and polite, whereas I could not have promised to be the latter replying to idiocies about information capture, like those posted for the gazillionth time, by the like of Markus.

Now, whether he educated anyone there is debatable. Witness, for example, Gort Bob Lovely's heel-digging, fact-ignoring, point-ignoring reply, which boiled down to "I DON'T CARE ABOUT SCIENCE AND DATA, ANALOG IS MORE EMOTIONAL AND IT"S THE PURELY HUMAN WAY TO GO!" Which , like so much audiopphile cant, is a claim back-loaded with mulish assumptions. THomH's reply to that neatly addressed its central fallacy.

It's as if the analog faithful reflexively have to reassert their credo whenever they feel threatened; maybe it comforts them. Either that, or Gorts have to reassert the 'analog' line whenever they feel the 'balance' might be shifting.
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Postby thomh » Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:24 pm

Rspaight wrote:
Oh, my....I would love to get involved in that thread and respond to bunk like this:


Just couldn't resist, could you?

Ryan


Look who's talking :wink:
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Postby Rspaight » Wed Nov 05, 2003 3:30 pm

Self-control has never been one of my strengths...

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Postby Patrick M » Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:06 pm

Please post the URL if you're going to talk about a thread. Some of us can't search, you know.
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Postby krabapple » Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:11 pm

If you trace back on this thread, you'll see it *was* posted, on Monday, by Ryan.


Here it is again:


http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showt ... adid=23790
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Postby krabapple » Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:20 pm

Hoffman weighs in with this gem of strawman misrepresentation:

"I'm glad this thread has veered away from the objectivist vs. subjectivist theme, where one person is constantly telling the other "Your ears can't tell you the truth, only numbers can." That brings no joy in Mudville."

which, of course, bears little resemblance to what 'objectivists' *ACTUALLY* say, i.e., 'your ears, and *only* your ears, can tell you if *you* hear a difference or not' . Measurments can give you an idea beforehand of whether you are likely to hear a difference, or they can give an explanaiton afterwards for why you *did* hear a difference. But the proper verification of whether you DO hear a difference needn't involve measurements AT ALL. It involves bias-controlled comparison.

Someone spank Mr. Hoffman again, please. He shouldn't be allowed to get away with that sort of crap.
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Postby Patrick M » Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:41 pm

krabapple wrote:If you trace back on this thread, you'll see it *was* posted, on Monday, by Ryan.

I thought the latest subject of debate had something to do with UD vs. UD2, referenced by Xenu above.
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