Cause, man, holy shit:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000003GXZ/
Turtles Sundazed discs - OOP and commanding big bucks?
It's the "There's Gonna Be a Storm" puzzle. Those discs were in print for at LEAST ten years, and nobody wanted them; they languished around, generally at a $9.99 price point (or less). Now they're OOP, and someone wants to charge $100+? Whatever; someone will pay for them.
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"Fuckin' Koreans" - Reno 911
"Fuckin' Koreans" - Reno 911
I've noticed a similar thing going on lately with a lot of Van Morrison CDs, which suddenly seem to be out of print (including many, if not all, of the Polydor remasters). A few days back, I realized there's still a few '80s and '90s (and even one or two '70s) Van albums I don't have, and went looking ... wow.
Just a few months ago these discs seemed to be everywhere.
Just a few months ago these discs seemed to be everywhere.
Only a theory, but if I had to guess...
Back catalog is going to go to download services exclusively in the very near future, I think - with a more Japanese-style limited release of media when they feel the sales merit.
Especially with Mediaplay gone, Tower going out of biz, FYE probably next, and Best Buy/Circus Shitty not really all that interested in deep catalog, the number of non-online retail outlets for catalog is far fewer than it used to be. So, if everything is bought online, what's the difference (from a record co. perspective) between Amazon.com and iTunes?
Answering my own question: it's a lot cheaper for record cos. to encode rather than manufacture, particularly since most of them have sold their manufacturing facilities...to say nothing of the cost of keeping things in print being different on CD than download services.
Back catalog is going to go to download services exclusively in the very near future, I think - with a more Japanese-style limited release of media when they feel the sales merit.
Especially with Mediaplay gone, Tower going out of biz, FYE probably next, and Best Buy/Circus Shitty not really all that interested in deep catalog, the number of non-online retail outlets for catalog is far fewer than it used to be. So, if everything is bought online, what's the difference (from a record co. perspective) between Amazon.com and iTunes?
Answering my own question: it's a lot cheaper for record cos. to encode rather than manufacture, particularly since most of them have sold their manufacturing facilities...to say nothing of the cost of keeping things in print being different on CD than download services.
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Bennett Cerf
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I did buy Turtle Soup and found it to be not really too good. I know, I should be cool and say that Battle of the Bands AND Turtle Soup are stunning masterworks deserving of DVD-A or SACD treatment. But I just don't believe that. And I tend to speak my mind. That make some people really like me and others hate me I know.
Anyway, it does feel good to know that I will be able to flip Turtle Soup on ebay for $350.00 in another year or so. I may need the cash for a car payment or something. A trip to Mexico for 2 on a three day weekend. We're living in good times I gotta say, livin' the life, and livin' large!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyway, it does feel good to know that I will be able to flip Turtle Soup on ebay for $350.00 in another year or so. I may need the cash for a car payment or something. A trip to Mexico for 2 on a three day weekend. We're living in good times I gotta say, livin' the life, and livin' large!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like them both, though I'd hardly defend them as masterworks. As much as I like "Battle," I concede that it's...well, pretty chock full of filler. Very ENJOYABLE filler, granted, but filler nonetheless. "Turtle Soup" is stronger on a song-by-song basis, but it's a damn-primitive sounding album, and a little too schizoid.
The Turtles were just never too great on settling down long enough to put out a really consistent long-player. The first too albums (horrible stereo mix aside) are so incredibly hit-or-miss (not to mention anachronistic, considering the band's later direction) that I generally don't listen to them; in fact, my preferred compilation of the Turtles' early period consists of chunks of each of those albums plus almost all of "Wooden Head." "Happy Together" has some great stuff ("Walking Song"), but strays perilously close to MOR banality at points. And so on.
The Turtles were just never too great on settling down long enough to put out a really consistent long-player. The first too albums (horrible stereo mix aside) are so incredibly hit-or-miss (not to mention anachronistic, considering the band's later direction) that I generally don't listen to them; in fact, my preferred compilation of the Turtles' early period consists of chunks of each of those albums plus almost all of "Wooden Head." "Happy Together" has some great stuff ("Walking Song"), but strays perilously close to MOR banality at points. And so on.
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"Fuckin' Koreans" - Reno 911
"Fuckin' Koreans" - Reno 911
I have always like these few hits they had. And the Rhino 20 Greatest Hits (first version) does have the master tape sound.
That hard stereo separation just works for me. Tickles yer brain if heard on headphones.
Yet those albums...I just can't get through any of them.
I have some of the videos they did in the 60s on DVD. They look like they were budgeted at about $26.00. A roll of film, and lunch at the Burger Barn.
That hard stereo separation just works for me. Tickles yer brain if heard on headphones.
Yet those albums...I just can't get through any of them.
I have some of the videos they did in the 60s on DVD. They look like they were budgeted at about $26.00. A roll of film, and lunch at the Burger Barn.