Crosby, Stills & Nash (Expanded & Remastered) 1/24

[lukpac]

Oh christ.

[David R. Modny]

What about the intro to Carry On? It's narrowed on the remaster, and isn't on the original.

I think you have your albums mixed up Pac...lol.

Edit: Shit...late to the dance again!

[lukpac]

I did compare it briefly to the remaster from a few years back. It sounded similar to me. Maybe a little difference on the EQ, but close. I still will try to find my original Atlantic.

I just picked this up yesterday. Hrmm.

I'd actually say it's quite different from the Gastwirt remaster. I don't know if that CD had the high end jacked up, or if this one has it rolled off, but there's quite a bit more high end (and hiss) on that CD. Next to it the new one sounds kind of muffled, at least at the moment. I don't have the original CD, but the common tracks on the box set sound closer to the Gastwirt CD (he did master both).

I quite like this version of Do For The Others. The other bonus tracks are ok, although they don't thrill me. I don't care for Song With No Words, but this mix easily bests the box set mix, IMO, even if that one is wider. For those who don't have the disc:

Do For The Others
(Stephen Stills)
Lead vocal and acoustic guitar: Stephen Stills
Harmony vocals: Stephen Stills & Graham Nash

Song With No Words (New Remix)
(David Crosby)
Vocals: David Crosby & Graham Nash
12-string acoustic guitar: David Crosby

Everybody's Talkin'
(Fred Neil)
Lead vocal and acoustic guitar: Stephen Stills
Harmony vocals: David Crosby & Graham Nash

Teach Your Children
(Graham Nash)
Lead vocal and acoustic guitar: Graham Nash
Harmony vocal: David Crosby

As has been pointed out elsewhere, the new CD is missing both the "Come in to my kitchen" bit before 49 Bye-Byes and Dallas Taylor looking out from the door on the cover.

[rjp]

for those of you who have the atlantic gold CD of the "couch" album i recommend keeping it for "49 bye-byes" (and the crosby "come in my kitchen" ad-lib) and get the new remaster for the rest. it really does sound better than any other and it closely approaches the gold disc for sound.

the other remaster 'daylight again" simply blows away the old one. if you like "daylight again" grab the new one, you won't be sorry. and two of the bonus tracks are very good unreleased stills tunes.

by the way, both of these new remasters are HDCD encoded.

renny

[lukpac]

Ok, here are some clips. In all three cases, one clip is from the Gastwirt remaster (used for the previous catalog CD and the gold CD) and one clip is from the 2006 remaster. For Suite: Judy Blue Eyes, the third clip is from an LP dub, while for the other two the third clip comes from the box set.

Note that the clips may or may not be in the same order from song to song.

Suite: Judy Blue Eyes A
Suite: Judy Blue Eyes B
Suite: Judy Blue Eyes C

Wooden Ships A
Wooden Ships B
Wooden Ships C

Marrakesh Express A
Marrakesh Express B
Marrakesh Express C

[stevef]

Luke...

Have you checked out the Rhino CSN Greatest Hits disc yet, the one that came out last year?

John Nowland and Bernie Grundman did the remastering, the same folks repsonsible for these new expanded CSN remasters.

I had a chance to listen to them both over the weekend and honestly... I couldn't tell the difference. Both sound great to me. But I would like others to compare for themselves and post their opinions on this.
The only difference between the discs is that the new exp. remasters are HDCD encoded.
Whether there was any additional work done since the GH disc came out and these new ones... I do not know.

Steve

[lukpac]

Have you checked out the Rhino CSN Greatest Hits disc yet, the one that came out last year?

Nope, haven't picked that one up. Not really very high on my list at the moment...

Did you listen to the clips?

[Andreas]

(I have not yet listened to the clips.)

I will upload some clips from the 1980s Crosby Stills Nash CD tonight. I think that is the one to beat, not the Gastwirt remaster.

[lukpac]

That would be great, yes. I have not heard that disc.

Could you do FLACs?

[Andreas]

From the 1980s Crosby Stills Nash CD, Atlantic 7567-81516-2
Suite: Judy Blue Eyes: http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2B7Q ... UDWPT27LG2
Marrakesh Express: http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3RYP ... S38PA100C7
Wooden Ships: http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=31Y8 ... Y4PS48ZMDY

About the clips:
The clips "judy b", "marrakesh a" and "wooden a" come from the same source, by far the worst with some ugly noise reduction.
The clips "judy c", "marrakesh c" and "wooden b" also come for the same source and have the best sound, although the high end is bit jacked up.
The clips "marrakesh b" and "wooden c" are from the same source and sound noisier with drop outs.
"judy a" is probably from the LP. Sounds okay, but the high end is muffled.

How does my old CD compete? It sounds similar to "judy c", "marrakesh c" and "wooden b", but without the drop outs in marrakesh and wooden.

My favorites:
"judy c"
my old CD for marrakesh, followed closely by "marrakesh c"
"wooden b"

[lukpac]

From the 1980s Crosby Stills Nash CD, Atlantic 7567-81516-2

Suite: Judy Blue Eyes: http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2B7Q ... UDWPT27LG2

Marrakesh Express: http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3RYP ... S38PA100C7

Wooden Ships: http://s23.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=31Y8 ... Y4PS48ZMDY

I'll get to these in a bit.

About the clips:

The clips "judy b", "marrakesh a" and "wooden a" come from the same source, by far the worst with some ugly noise reduction.

The clips "judy c", "marrakesh c" and "wooden b" also come for the same source and have the best sound, although the high end is bit jacked up.

The clips "judy a", "marrakesh b" and "wooden c" are from the same source and sound noisier with drop outs.

A few notes:

- the third source for Judy is an LP, while the third source for the other two is the box set. So one of the Judy clips would stand on its own.

- I'll have to double check my notes at home, but I do know that some of the clips you think come from the same CDs don't. I'll give a hint - noise reduction was only used in a few spots, and it was used on multiple CDs - in different spots.

[Andreas]

Well, I am pretty sure that "marrakesh c" and "wooden b" are from the same source, and they sound good. And "marrakesh b" and "wooden c" also come from the same source, and they sound noisy and have the drop outs. And "marrakesh a" and "wooden a" have the nastiest noise reduction.

The Judy clips confused me a bit, but "judy c" is the best sounding of those. I have edited my post before I saw your reply, and I now think that "judy a" is the LP.

[lukpac]

Well, I am pretty sure that "marrakesh c" and "wooden b" are from the same source, and they sound good. And "marrakesh b" and "wooden c" also come from the same source, and they sound noisy and have the drop outs. And "marrakesh a" and "wooden a" have the nastiest noise reduction.

I'll say this - "marrakesh a" and "wooden a" are not from the same source.

The Judy clips confused me a bit, but "judy c" is the best sounding of those. I have edited my post before I saw your reply, and I now think that "judy a" is the LP.

The LP isn't A...

[lukpac]

Anyone else care to listen/chime in?

[lukpac]

Guess not.

Judy a - 2006
Judy b - LP
Judy c - Gastwirt remaster

Ships a - box set
Ships b - Gastwirt remaster
Ships c - 2006

Marrakesh a - Gastwirt remaster
Marrakesh b - 2006
Marrakesh c - box set