Miles Davis SACDs

krabapple · Postby **krabapple** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:40 am

Should someone tell this guy....that the standard-issue CD -- which costs less than half what the Japanese SACD does -- uses the same Seth Foster remastering?

For that matter, has anyone ever verified that ANY of the Japanese Miles Davis SACDs (all of which are stereo-only non-hybrids) are different remasterings than the standard issue CDs?

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showp ... stcount=13

Jelly · Postby **Jelly** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:55 pm

Surely they MUST be better. SACDs!!! From Japan!!! :twisted:

Ess Ay Cee Dee · Postby **Ess Ay Cee Dee** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:59 pm

Jelly wrote:Surely they MUST be better. SACDs!!! From Japan!!!

Exactly. The obis are Hi-Rez, too.

Matt · Postby **Matt** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:50 pm

I can tell you from owning some of the SACD imports that they really do sound very close to the current remasters. If I recall correctly, some of the current US remasters even have bonus tracks where the equivalent JSACD does not.

krabapple · Postby **krabapple** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:20 pm

I would actually like to get hold of a SACD that is *known for sure* to simply be PCM-to-DSD conversion , if only to compare the CD to the SACD after analog-to-digital transfer. (Hoffman's SACDs, which he claims are sonically equivalent up to the A/D step, aren't, as ThomH demonstrated).

Alternately, maybe I'll spring for one of those expensive Jap Miles imports.

dcooper · Postby **dcooper** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:37 pm

The multichannel KOB SACD is slightly more interesting than the redbook, but I can't imagine that the JSACDs can improve that much on the redbooks overall, which I find to be pretty good across the board.

Matt · Postby **Matt** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:49 am

I like the Miles US SACD of "Sketches Of Spain". It just sounds real good to me. Mingus' "Ah Um" US SACD sounds great to me as well. Perhaps they are just lacking a good recent remaster.

I think a lot of people must be comparing the (J)SACD's to the original CD releases which sucked.

Matt · Postby **Matt** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:57 am

Alternately, maybe I'll spring for one of those expensive Jap Miles imports.

If you have not ordered from Amazon in Japan, they are pretty reasonable with their prices and service. I have had them ship Monday (non-expedited) and received the disc in the mail on that Saturday.

Chris M · Postby **Chris M** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:00 am

I find the Miles/Gil Evans remasters (Miles Ahead, Sketches, Porgy and Bess) very shrill. Do the LP's sound like this? What about earlier CD editions?

Ess Ay Cee Dee · Postby **Ess Ay Cee Dee** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:24 am

Chris M wrote:I find the Miles/Gil Evans remasters (Miles Ahead, Sketches, Porgy and Bess) very shrill. Do the LP's sound like this? What about earlier CD editions?

I have a stereo "six-eye" first edition of Porgy and Bess and it's pretty shrill as well (though not quite as bad as the CD). Apparently it's just an issue with the recording. P&B and Sketches are great albums but the sound is so irritating that I find it hard to listen to either of them all the way through.