Like the swallows returning to Capistrano...

[Rspaight]

Luke, thought you'd find this amusing (or not).

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showt ... genumber=1

You can set your watch by the appearance of these threads. Any bets on when it gets locked and someone gets tossed?

Ryan

[lukpac]

All I can say is:

Dob = my hero (Roger Nichols too)

and

If you readily admit that you don't know much about jitter, don't try and tell everyone that:
- what you're hearing *can't* be because of jitter
- it must be in the mastering
- it must not be system dependant
- your system is better than mine

Somebody needs to post the following. Any doubts should be *instantly* gone. You'd think, anyway:

http://www.rogernichols.com/EQ/EQ_2000_02.html

I copied the audio from the bad pressing into my computer and burned a CD-R from the audio file. The CD-R sounded just like the ref.

Is this not the exact same shit I said over and over?

You guys just like to see my blood pressure rise, don't you?

[Rspaight]

You guys just like to see my blood pressure rise, don't you?

We take whatever entertainment we can get.

Ryan

[Grant]

I've long said that jitter can be removed.

[Rspaight]

I agree, Grant. I'm no expert, but I always figured it was an artifact of the media, not the data. If you could get the data off the "defective" medium (funny-sounding bit-for-bit copy) and rewrite it to a different medium (say, by ripping and burning to a CDR), you could theoretically affect the jitter, either positively or negatively.

I gotta wonder, though -- since SACD and DVD-A datastreams are more "computer-like" in their nature (not just ramming bits through a D/A converter, but processed with decompression, buffering and so on), is jitter a factor with those media?

Ryan

[lukpac]

I've long said that jitter can be removed.

Yes, we all have. However, talking to certain people is like talking to a brick wall. "But on my superior system!" "It's in the mastering!" "They aren't the same!"